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Survivor S32 - Kaoh Rong - Brains vs. Brawn vs. Beauty II - Feb 17 2016 Survivor S32 - Kaoh Rong - Brains vs. Brawn vs. Beauty II - Feb 17 2016

04-29-2016 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ajv174
One thing to consider is that Cydney and Michele have no knowledge of what the advantage is. They never even saw the original version and, at least based on what we've seen, Tai hasn't told anybody. I'm not sure if that unknown makes the optimal move to be more or less aggressive (I'd be inclined to say more, personally.) but it does significantly alter their perspectives.
You're right, I hadn't realised that these guys didn't get to see Dan's advantage before playing. I guess in their spot I'd just assume it was another idol. It does seem weird that no one has bothered to look for a new idol after two idols have left the game post merge. Is there some rule that they only get replaced if they are played?
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04-29-2016 , 06:35 PM
i'm sure they're all looking for idols but there's no point showing it if they dont find them
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04-29-2016 , 06:48 PM
I would hope that Tai has been planning on saving his advantage for this week, in anticipation of a possible 2-2-2 vote designed to flush his idol out at 6... Assuming he gathers correct intel on who one or both of the other 2's are in the 2-2-2, this is a dream scenario to allow him to save his idol to final 5 (more than likely just pile 2 votes on Jason and hope that does the trick... or if it seems the other 4 aren't talking much with him and Jason or he gets a bad feeling, team up with Jason on the vote).
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05-02-2016 , 09:37 AM
If I am Tai, I probably play my idol this week and save my advantage for next week. Having two votes out of six >>> two out of seven. Plus if you play your idol this week to ensure you make final five, no matter who goes home you have at worst 1 in 4 chance next week to win immunity (Joe drawing dead). Depending on the type of challenge his odds may be much better. He's already proven he can outlast Cydney in an endurance challenge.
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05-02-2016 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MarsMuzak
If I am Tai, I probably play my idol this week and save my advantage for next week. Having two votes out of six >>> two out of seven. Plus if you play your idol this week to ensure you make final five, no matter who goes home you have at worst 1 in 4 chance next week to win immunity (Joe drawing dead). Depending on the type of challenge his odds may be much better. He's already proven he can outlast Cydney in an endurance challenge.
But usually you want to use your extra vote when there are an even number of people left. If used with 6 left, you have a chance to break a 3-3 tie. If used at 5 left, then the extra vote doesn't even really help you if you're in the minority.
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05-02-2016 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VTChess
But usually you want to use your extra vote when there are an even number of people left. If used with 6 left, you have a chance to break a 3-3 tie. If used at 5 left, then the extra vote doesn't even really help you if you're in the minority.
I realize it's just suspicions at this point, as I don't believe the show has ever commented on this. But what happens if you use the vote at 5 and cause a 3-3 tie? Do we think this individual gets another vote on the re-vote or not? I could really see the show going either way here.
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05-02-2016 , 04:20 PM
It seems clear that if Tai is part of the tie, he gets to cast 0 votes in the tie-break per the standard rules.

If he feels solid with Aubry and Joe he can do a 2-2-2 vote split at final 5 Vs say Jason and Cydney (say she tries to flip and Michelle goes out this week). That leaves Aubry and Joe 2 votes and the other side 1 vote. This is how Tai can use the double vote to protect against an idol at F5.

If he is down 3-2 going in, he is hosed even if his extra makes it 3-3. He loses 2-1 on the re-vote.

Last edited by danspartan; 05-02-2016 at 04:22 PM. Reason: Made sure scenario helps me win as S-S
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05-03-2016 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by danspartan
It seems clear that if Tai is part of the tie, he gets to cast 0 votes in the tie-break per the standard rules.

If he feels solid with Aubry and Joe he can do a 2-2-2 vote split at final 5 Vs say Jason and Cydney (say she tries to flip and Michelle goes out this week). That leaves Aubry and Joe 2 votes and the other side 1 vote. This is how Tai can use the double vote to protect against an idol at F5.

If he is down 3-2 going in, he is hosed even if his extra makes it 3-3. He loses 2-1 on the re-vote.
This post legit confuses me. I can't figure it out.
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05-03-2016 , 11:41 AM
Some possible clarification on F3 or F2

Spoiler:
There are three episodes left
May 4th - 1 hour
May 11th - 1 hour
May 18th - 2 hours plus 1 hour wrap-up

That has to mean F2. After May 11th we will be down to F4. I think it will be a little unusual for the final two hours to only eliminate one player.

Uggh. This could be a disaster.
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05-03-2016 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by esad
Some possible clarification on F3 or F2

Spoiler:
There are three episodes left
May 4th - 1 hour
May 11th - 1 hour
May 18th - 2 hours plus 1 hour wrap-up

That has to mean F2. After May 11th we will be down to F4. I think it will be a little unusual for the final two hours to only eliminate one player.

Uggh. This could be a disaster.
Spoiler:
F2 means you have to adjust your predictor, as neither Joe nor Kyle are technically drawing dead in that case
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05-03-2016 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
Spoiler:
F2 means you have to adjust your predictor, as neither Joe nor Kyle are technically drawing dead in that case
Spoiler:
It throws everything off because you end up with two goats at the end and people just vote for the lesser of two idiots. This could be bad. Michele, Joe final 2? Ugggh.
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05-03-2016 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by esad
Some possible clarification on F3 or F2

Spoiler:
There are three episodes left
May 4th - 1 hour
May 11th - 1 hour
May 18th - 2 hours plus 1 hour wrap-up

That has to mean F2. After May 11th we will be down to F4. I think it will be a little unusual for the final two hours to only eliminate one player.

Uggh. This could be a disaster.
Spoiler:
Unusual but not impossible. Philippines and Caramoan had a F4 start to the finale and a F3 finish. Both seasons had an advantage challenge in addition to the IC and TC.

FWIW, I'm anticipating a F2 regardless.
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05-03-2016 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtuna
This post legit confuses me. I can't figure it out.
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It seems clear that if Tai is part of the tie, he gets to cast 0 votes in the tie-break per the standard rules. If it is final 5 and the vote is 3-3 (including Tai's extra vote), Tai CANNOT vote on the re-vote if he is part of the tie. This occurs if he is down 3-2 in numbers and his extra vote creates the 3-3 tie. He then loses 2-1 on the re-vote.

If he feels solid with Aubry and Joe he can do a 2-2-2 vote split at final 5 vs Jason and Cydney (say she tries to flip and Michelle goes out this week). Again, assuming Tai is part of the tie, on the re-vote that leaves Aubry and Joe 2 votes and the other side 0 votes. This is how Tai can use the double vote to protect against an idol at F5. If instead he is part of a 3-2 majority, he can either add his extra vote to make it 4-2, or he can be part of vote split resulting in 2-2-2 which would protect against an idol if another one is found.
Makes more sense?
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05-03-2016 , 05:08 PM
Yes, it does. I was confusing myself over the number of potential votes at final 5. lol
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05-03-2016 , 09:03 PM
Vote doubler speculation

Spoiler:
Heard speculation that after vote doubler did not work for Dan and Season 30 and presumably Tai this season, that they switched to vote stealer for 2nd chances.
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05-04-2016 , 08:08 PM
Tai isn't completely dumb
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05-04-2016 , 08:09 PM
Mark by far the early leader in positive scenes for ESADs predictor this week.
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05-04-2016 , 08:14 PM
Awesome challenge concept. Whoever got Joe was an auto-loser.

YOU DUMB BALL
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05-04-2016 , 08:14 PM
aubry should flip and vote out tai at f6
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05-04-2016 , 08:16 PM
yup this is a perfect time for aubry to blindside tai
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05-04-2016 , 08:18 PM
Cool challenge but these team reward challenges are pretty boring. Who cares who wins?
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05-04-2016 , 08:21 PM
Is this joes swan song? Seen more of him in the first 20 mins than we have all season
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05-04-2016 , 08:25 PM
Mark>>>Lucky>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joe
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05-04-2016 , 08:26 PM
Michele wants Jason out? why?
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05-04-2016 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VTChess
Michele wants Jason out? why?
I guess she thinks she beats the other girls at final? Or she's just not that good at survivor.
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