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04-29-2016 , 06:32 PM

#1676

JB91

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Originally Posted by ajv174

One thing to consider is that Cydney and Michele have no knowledge of what the advantage is. They never even saw the original version and, at least based on what we've seen, Tai hasn't told anybody. I'm not sure if that unknown makes the optimal move to be more or less aggressive (I'd be inclined to say more, personally.) but it does significantly alter their perspectives.

You're right, I hadn't realised that these guys didn't get to see Dan's advantage before playing. I guess in their spot I'd just assume it was another idol. It does seem weird that no one has bothered to look for a new idol after two idols have left the game post merge. Is there some rule that they only get replaced if they are played?

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04-29-2016 , 06:35 PM

#1677

El Rata

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i'm sure they're all looking for idols but there's no point showing it if they dont find them

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04-29-2016 , 06:48 PM

#1678

Schneids

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I would hope that Tai has been planning on saving his advantage for this week, in anticipation of a possible 2-2-2 vote designed to flush his idol out at 6... Assuming he gathers correct intel on who one or both of the other 2's are in the 2-2-2, this is a dream scenario to allow him to save his idol to final 5 (more than likely just pile 2 votes on Jason and hope that does the trick... or if it seems the other 4 aren't talking much with him and Jason or he gets a bad feeling, team up with Jason on the vote).

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05-02-2016 , 09:37 AM

#1679

MarsMuzak

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If I am Tai, I probably play my idol this week and save my advantage for next week. Having two votes out of six >>> two out of seven. Plus if you play your idol this week to ensure you make final five, no matter who goes home you have at worst 1 in 4 chance next week to win immunity (Joe drawing dead). Depending on the type of challenge his odds may be much better. He's already proven he can outlast Cydney in an endurance challenge.

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05-02-2016 , 11:35 AM

#1680

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Originally Posted by MarsMuzak

But usually you want to use your extra vote when there are an even number of people left. If used with 6 left, you have a chance to break a 3-3 tie. If used at 5 left, then the extra vote doesn't even really help you if you're in the minority.

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05-02-2016 , 02:41 PM

#1681

ajv174

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Originally Posted by VTChess

I realize it's just suspicions at this point, as I don't believe the show has ever commented on this. But what happens if you use the vote at 5 and cause a 3-3 tie? Do we think this individual gets another vote on the re-vote or not? I could really see the show going either way here.

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05-02-2016 , 04:20 PM

#1682

danspartan

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It seems clear that if Tai is part of the tie, he gets to cast 0 votes in the tie-break per the standard rules.

If he feels solid with Aubry and Joe he can do a 2-2-2 vote split at final 5 Vs say Jason and Cydney (say she tries to flip and Michelle goes out this week). That leaves Aubry and Joe 2 votes and the other side 1 vote. This is how Tai can use the double vote to protect against an idol at F5.

If he is down 3-2 going in, he is hosed even if his extra makes it 3-3. He loses 2-1 on the re-vote.

Last edited by danspartan; 05-02-2016 at 04:22 PM. Reason: Made sure scenario helps me win as S-S

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05-03-2016 , 09:48 AM

#1683

bigtuna

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Originally Posted by danspartan

This post legit confuses me. I can't figure it out.

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05-03-2016 , 11:41 AM

#1684

esad

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Some possible clarification on F3 or F2

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05-03-2016 , 11:51 AM

#1685

Kurn, son of Mogh

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Some possible clarification on F3 or F2

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05-03-2016 , 11:56 AM

#1686

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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh

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05-03-2016 , 12:21 PM

#1687

ajv174

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Originally Posted by esad

Some possible clarification on F3 or F2

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05-03-2016 , 04:27 PM

#1688

danspartan

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Originally Posted by bigtuna

This post legit confuses me. I can't figure it out.

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It seems clear that if Tai is part of the tie, he gets to cast 0 votes in the tie-break per the standard rules. If it is final 5 and the vote is 3-3 (including Tai's extra vote), Tai CANNOT vote on the re-vote if he is part of the tie. This occurs if he is down 3-2 in numbers and his extra vote creates the 3-3 tie. He then loses 2-1 on the re-vote.

If he feels solid with Aubry and Joe he can do a 2-2-2 vote split at final 5 vs Jason and Cydney (say she tries to flip and Michelle goes out this week). Again, assuming Tai is part of the tie, on the re-vote that leaves Aubry and Joe 2 votes and the other side 0 votes. This is how Tai can use the double vote to protect against an idol at F5. If instead he is part of a 3-2 majority, he can either add his extra vote to make it 4-2, or he can be part of vote split resulting in 2-2-2 which would protect against an idol if another one is found.

Makes more sense?

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05-03-2016 , 05:08 PM

#1689

bigtuna

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Yes, it does. I was confusing myself over the number of potential votes at final 5. lol

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05-03-2016 , 09:03 PM

#1690

danspartan

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Vote doubler speculation

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05-04-2016 , 08:08 PM

#1691

pindawg

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Tai isn't completely dumb

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05-04-2016 , 08:09 PM

#1692

danspartan

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Mark by far the early leader in positive scenes for ESADs predictor this week.

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05-04-2016 , 08:14 PM

#1693

danspartan

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Awesome challenge concept. Whoever got Joe was an auto-loser.

YOU DUMB BALL

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05-04-2016 , 08:14 PM

#1694

Steroid Boy

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aubry should flip and vote out tai at f6

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05-04-2016 , 08:16 PM

#1695

El Rata

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yup this is a perfect time for aubry to blindside tai

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05-04-2016 , 08:18 PM

#1696

tiltstermc

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Cool challenge but these team reward challenges are pretty boring. Who cares who wins?

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05-04-2016 , 08:21 PM

#1697

pindawg

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Is this joes swan song? Seen more of him in the first 20 mins than we have all season

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05-04-2016 , 08:25 PM

#1698

danspartan

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Mark>>>Lucky>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joe

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05-04-2016 , 08:26 PM

#1699

VTChess

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Michele wants Jason out? why?

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05-04-2016 , 08:27 PM

#1700

425kid

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Originally Posted by VTChess

Michele wants Jason out? why?

I guess she thinks she beats the other girls at final? Or she's just not that good at survivor.

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