Good ending. I think I would have voted Mike but understand why maryann got the vote. If anyone would have voted Romeo I would have gone nuts

Yeah, but Romeo did a good job continually moving alliances since he was on the bottom and needed to make sure someone more important was voted out.

I can’t believe no one has thought of that before.

When Mike dropped his ball at the single ball phase, I could tell the editors were setting us up for a Romeo win.



Also, holy hell Jeff is an ass hole lol. He really piled on Mike when it was clear Mike was just in shock at losing that quickly.

Maryanne deserved it, and I think the edit short changed her a bit based on the jury deliberation.

But I don’t think Mike did anything to potentially beat her, especially since he lol uselessly played his idol on her at final 5. That was a goat move from a guy who actually had a shot to win. There was no point other than to show his “loyalty.”

I still think Maryanne wins, but had he not done that, she plays her idol and can’t make the, “I had an idol, I wasn’t losing anyways,” argument at FTC.

I enjoyed the season. Some good characters and the power structure shifted multiple times, so it kept things interesting. During the finale, I was amazed by the level of Romeo's delusion regarding his winning chances. But then, he further amazed me during the FTC by actually making a decent case for himself which I thought was not remotely possible. Not that he was ever going to win, but he definitely made an argument. I thought all three finalists made a good argument for themselves. Ultimately, it seems it did hurt Mike that he pimped honesty and integrity so hard as things he values. Keep your love of integrity on the down low when you're playing Survivor.

I got a kick out of Maryanne shifting gears and being much more concise with her answers during the FTC. Thinking back to some of her crazy rigmarole answers to Jeff's questions earlier in the game, she seemed almost like a different person. Between that, and her unveiling the hidden idol she had with a flourish, I think she showed people she was playing harder than they realized. She also had working relationships in the game, or was at least on a friendly level, with most of the jurors which certainly helps when you're trying to win their final vote. She made a critical move at final 6, set herself up well for the end, and sold it well.

I think to get the win, Mike needed to do a better job of selling his game from start to finish. He needed to sell he was more in control of his own destiny for a longer portion of the game than Maryanne, and try to own his double dealing without destroying the connections he'd made with people.

Would Lindsay have beaten Maryanne? Part of me questions Maryanne's decision to let Lindsay go when she could have saved her. But if she couldn't have beaten her in the end, obviously it was a good move. Counting on Romeo to win the F4 immunity seems unlikely. Was there no danger of Mike and Jonathan taking each other to the end if they won F4 immunity? One of those two deciding to take the other to the finals seems a lot more likely than Lindsay and Mike deciding to go to the end together. I thought there was even some chance Romeo might suddenly get ambitious and decide beating Jonathan and X was his best shot at winning which would have resulted in Maryanne having to make fire to get in the finals.

I think Mike played the idol on Maryanne to give himself the out of not giving it to Lindsay. "Sorry, Lindsay, I made this promise to Maryanne. My hands are tied." I'm not sure why he was going around telling multiple people he'd use his idol on them for no reason. I couldn't understand it when it was happening. It didn't seem like he was getting anything in return. He was just, after the fact, making promises to reward loyalty by playing his idol for others. Then, trying to loophole his way out of playing it for Lindsay when Lindsay was the person he wanted to vote out. It was another spot where Mike could have just owned up to doing something that was best for his own game, but tried to deflect the blame instead.

Maryanne by contrast, was like, "Hidden Idol, bitches! I could have saved you, but that move didn't suit me. Suck it!" Obviously, she was a bit more tactful.

So, I was thinking. They like to do these themed seasons. I'm down for an all Brawn season. Whose with me? Yes, this thought was inspired by watching Jonathan walk around without his shirt. I got to thinking about Grant and Danny and James...

Beautiful black woman slays the patriarchy. Racism has been fixed. Great season, guys.

Can’t wait to break down more barriers next fall.
#TheTribeHasSpoken
#BlackLivesMatter
#YesWeCan
#BuildBackBetter
#HeckingVOTE

Who all is excited for Survivor 43: Scumbags

Not until Jeff Probst is fired.

What a disgusting guy. Makes a perverted comment to Maryanne about her breathing. Then he purposefully stirs her emotions up right before the biggest challenge of her life and completely throws her off her game, which honestly is not her fault in any way. It's just completely uncalled for overt racism that we've become accustomed to with Probst.

Surely I'm not the only one that expected Mike to win the firemaking challenge am I? He's a ****ing FIREFIGHTER ffs. That's why he was laid back all chill giggling and why he didn't feel any need to start up fires all season like Jonathan. Firefighters study fire. They understand fire. Who commits more arson than anyone else? Firefighters! Hello! It wasn't pure luck that he created like the most humongous fire in firemaking challenge history.

That was such an obvious spot to take Jonathan and get rid of at least one of the perceived final council threats. Albeit, I'm not sure what path to victory Romeo could have possibly conceived for himself. Dude's a loser and he played a loser's game. His only hope was to connect with some losers on the jury. He probably should have been voted off on day 1 before even going to a tribal.

Just now getting around to watching the finale. Had to suffer through the Married At First Sight finale first with the wife. Woof.

Thoughts while watching...

- pretty insufferable seeing Lindsay getting righteous with Jonathan for betraying their alliance when she voted for him, especially while calling HIM out for being righteous. He was definitely condescending but she was oozing hypocrisy there. I gotta say, I actually don't think she's played all that well at all. She comes across as if it seems like she's played well because she (usually) carries herself well and comes across as intelligent, but I'm not exactly sure what actual moves she can point to for her resume (strategically, obviously her challenge abilities are impressive, especially on a season with a GOAT challenge beast) and she has definitely had several unforced errors. I think we've just been giving her more credit than she deserves because she was aligned with the obvious good player from this season, Omer.

- Mike and Jonathan don't have a full brain between them. Also, I get Maryann wanting to sandbag knowing it but she could've at least suggested they follow Lindsay and try to find the advantage.

- Mike's innocent excited reaction "GAWLIC BREAD?!" was adorable.

- Romeo is Chet 2.0. Had Chet been around post season 20 when bringing a goat to the end became a more visible part of endgame strategy he would've definitely been a finalist.

- Lindsey not handling herself very well when things aren't going her way. Yeesh. Not a good look.

- Lindsay going with the guilt tactic. Could very well work on Mike. Bold move Cotton. But I think even if Mike can't admit it to himself, his true loyalty is to himself and his family (as it should be) and he shouldn't have qualms about having to deceive people for that much greater good.

- lolRomeo with the totally irrelevant announcement of his fake idol. Cool story bro.

- yeah this MaryAnn sob monologue before the last challenge has winner edit all over it.

- if I was Lindsay I would've made a promise to Romeo to take him to the finals if he votes for Jonathan and I win the F4. I'd make the same promise to Mike.

- LOLRomeo winning this last challenge. LOLthisseason.

- So how many individual immunity challenges did Jonathan end up winning? I feel like he kinda didn't end up with that great of a challenge record post merge.

- LOLRomeo for going with the "ultimate underdog" narrative. The same tactic that every goat uses. Never gets old.

- Hai throwing the term "gaslight" here is super cringe. Definitely a very #woke thing to just use that term interchangeably with "lie".

- MaryAnne clearly VERY prepared with these FTC answers.

- probably one of the most overall likeable casts post merge, no?

- Great FTC. I have to say one nice thing about recent seasons is that we've had a high prevalence of non butthurt juries. It's good for the game to have people who respect the game. Even those with big egos are able to recognize that they got got, and they want to reward that instead of using their FTC vote to take revenge. Good stuff.

- I have to admit I wasn't thrilled about any of the final 5 winning but Maryanne's FTC performance makes her a pretty satisfying winner.

- Mike looking gut punched right after the winner announcement. He's definitely guilty of smelling himself pretty hard during this whole episode. Got a little too high off his own stash. He must've thought it was in the bag.

- Man that pizza looks good.

- not a fan of not having the whole cast out during the reunion. We don't need to hear much from them but it just seems like something that as a cast member, one thing that you should get is that experience.

Romeo thinking he was a big player needing a fake idol to survive lol he could have pulled his dick out and pissed on the final five and still would have been in the final 3

Was kind of funny when Mike said to Jonathan, "Romeo might have an idol, who cares? We need to get out the people who could beat us."

This was one of those seasons where it seemed like the winner was more obvious to the viewers than the players. They players all seemed to think Mike and Lindsay were the 2 most likely to win, and that Maryann was not a real threat. They should have been working to get Maryann out.

Lmao. This made me laugh. I’ve been in the same spot the entire season. That **** dragged out for almost 5 months. And it’s restarting again in July…

I mean, it’s a relatively entertaining show overall, but I hate I can’t watch Survivor live. I do it for the love.

The fact that Mike gave his idol to Maryanne, assuring she'd make F4, shows he vastly underestimated her chances to win. I feel like she was barely a step above Romeo in their minds, which was a huge miscalculation. I wonder if Mike would have voted for Jonathan over Maryann if he had lost the fire making challenge.

This cast was very likeable, yes. But also very boring. The show needs villains.

The fan base can't handle villains any more unfortunately. Just look at the reaction to Shan last season, people act like she's the worst person ever on SM.

Mike really blew that hard at FTC. That was Coach levels of clueless, especially in the first half of FTC. Tori kind of set him up with that question and he fell right into the trap. No one gives a **** if you were honest and loyal (except maybe Mat Rogers but he sucks anyway) at FTC. Just own your **** and people will usually respect that you played hard as long as you weren't a complete douche bag like Russell was throughout the season socially. Maryanne explained her game perfectly, Mike didn't and that's why she won and he lost.

Yup I turned it off pre final tribal last night. I really didn’t care who won.

Probably not going to bother watching the finale but who voted for who?

Never mind. 7-1 for Maryanne. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. Although it sounds like having Mike and Romeo beside her was the right combo.

Maybe the funniest moment of the season for me was when Lindsay (with a straight face) said to Jonathan, after voting for him, that they are in an alliance, and seemed genuinely offended when he pointed out that she just voted for him. A+ unintentional comedy there.

That was great. I don't really think any of the final 5 this season are that good at Survivor, but at least Maryanne had the sense to blindside Omar and she had a nice moment at FTC when explaining her different paths to get to final 4.

Fun season, ready for S43!

Looks like 43 and 44 are both going to be short seasons again with 3 tribes of 6 to start. Wonder if they will ever go back to the original 39 days because I think the shorter seasons definitely change the game, and not in a good way.

Not according to Jeff.

https://www.tvinsider.com/1045668/su...-game-preview/

I dont need to see any of these people again outside of Jon, Omar, Hai.
Id rather see a bunch of s41 folx before these three.
Give me Sydney, Brad, Shan, Evvie, Xander.

I wont be incredibly upset to see Drea again, but Id rather see Liana personally. Not that it should be a choice between the two. That would be racist. Id also prefer to see them take a swing and bring back Jenny.

Why do you think this? Some of the twists were off, but hey, they tried something.