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03-18-2010 , 02:17 PM

#351

Dominic

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Originally Posted by daryn

i still don't get the reasoning for faraday being mib though.

it has to do with his time travel experiments and jughead exploding....read my link

03-18-2010 , 02:18 PM

#352

Dominic

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what I really liked about this last episode is how the Locke/Swayer "kill my Dad" thing happened again...Flocke (Faraday, if we believe that theory) is pretty much asking Sawyer to kill Widomore...

I really like the idea of Widmore being the good guy in all of this, trying to contain MiB,/Faraday/Flocke....

03-18-2010 , 02:32 PM

#353

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Originally Posted by AlexM

Picking just one of these, Sawyer was a cop and not a con man in 2004, but a change in job isn't a change in person and he was just as tortured about his past. In Timeline A though, he had a wonderful 3 years with Juliet and resolved his issues with Anthony cooper. Yes, Juliet's dead now, but better to have loved and lost. He's better off in the original timeline IMO.

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Originally Posted by TomCollins

He's still got 3 years extra in the original time line. A lot can happen in 3 years.

It is logical to assume, short of them running out of time, Sawyer meeting Juliet and getting closure on Cooper (one way or the other) in the alt timeline is the natural close point to that character depending how they close up that part of the story. Him meeting her and asking her for coffee and she agreeing and saying to go dutch on it is very possibly the last scene of the entire show if Sawyer ends up taking over as the new Jacob in the original timeline as some predict.

03-18-2010 , 02:32 PM

#354

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I don't see Faraday being MIB
75% of those EW articles are just gibberish

03-18-2010 , 03:00 PM

#355

AlexM

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Originally Posted by TomCollins

He's still got 3 years extra in the original time line. A lot can happen in 3 years.

And if you want to compare just 2004-2004, I don't really see how he's better or worse off in either one. He's just as tortured either way.

03-18-2010 , 03:04 PM

#356

AlexM

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Originally Posted by daryn

i still don't get the reasoning for faraday being mib though.

There isn't any. Insane theories don't require reasoning.

03-18-2010 , 04:50 PM

#357

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reasoning that faraday could be MiB?

um... you could reason that lots of people could be MiB considering WE DO NOT KNOW HIS NAME AND THIS IS MOST LIKELY ON PURPOSE!

they keep giving us subtle clues "i was once a man" "i had a mother" etc. writing this theory off as "insane" we might as well call you Phil or TheHip.

03-18-2010 , 04:57 PM

#358

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he ----smoke, i agreed with you. and i'm being nice now, so be nice to me

03-18-2010 , 05:10 PM

#359

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Why Faraday? At least pick a guy who acts a bit like Smoky like Sawyer. He also specified having an insane mother like Claire. Maybe Smoky is Aaron!

Seriously though, what Sawyer's mum did is a lot crazier than how crazy Faraday's mum acted.

Kate's mum was pretty crazy. How lol would that be, it would be Kate talking to Kate about their insane mother.

03-18-2010 , 05:23 PM

#360

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And if you want to compare just 2004-2004, I don't really see how he's better or worse off in either one. He's just as tortured either way.

He's tortured, yes. But he's a cop and living an honest life. He has much less guilt than he would have if he was still conning people. It's still not clear if he is going to kill Cooper, he might just want to bring him to justice and arrest him. Hell, the Anthony Cooper that scammed them might not have been Locke's dad.

03-18-2010 , 05:24 PM

#361

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The EW theory has a major hole in it- if the bomb kills Eloise, how come it doesn't kill Ben and his father?

03-18-2010 , 06:06 PM

#362

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Originally Posted by donniccolo

It's WAY more likely that MiB is from some ancient time. Maybe we don't know his name because he's forgotten it himself. Or maybe it's Julius Caesar or something. It makes zero sense for him to be one of the main characters of this show though. Yes, this theory is insane. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with insane theories. They can be fun. But it's important to recognize them for what they are.

03-18-2010 , 06:11 PM

#363

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Aaron makes WAY more sense than any main cast member.

03-18-2010 , 06:12 PM

#364

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Hell, the Anthony Cooper that scammed them might not have been Locke's dad.

????

This event happened before the Incident...

03-18-2010 , 06:54 PM

#365

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Aaron makes WAY more sense than any main cast member.

Agreed. I think almost anyone would agree with this.

03-18-2010 , 07:01 PM

#366

Assani Fisher

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Originally Posted by Dominic

Jeff Jensen at EW.com has a fantastic recap and lots of very good theories about LOST:

Jensen theories

No spoilers, but a very good end-game theory regarding Faraday, Widmore and Flocke. It made me sit up and go "Holy ****!"

reading through this now....I want to read it, but damn this guy is so long winded that it makes it tough! Just tell me your theories and stop it with so much filler that makes your article 8 pages long!

03-18-2010 , 07:10 PM

#367

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alright finished it....last paragraph is an interesting theory imo, but rest of the article is just a very slow paced recap of the episode.

03-18-2010 , 07:17 PM

#368

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i think there is a good chance that the reason the MiBs name is not known is because it is a huge "shocker."

yeah, i've been saying this for quite a while now. This plus the mother line does make Farrady = MiB quite possible.

03-18-2010 , 07:27 PM

#369

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I'd be willing to bet that MiB ends up being a character we've already met(or at least some form or reincarnation of a character we've met). Even money bet, let me know if anyone is interested.

Note that this includes EVERY character we've met so far....so if MiB ends up being another form of Jacob, that would count since we've already met Jacob.

03-18-2010 , 07:44 PM

#370

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i kinda thought MiB could be Aaron

03-18-2010 , 08:25 PM

#371

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I think it's possible Jacob and Smokey are one and the same. Two halves of one former whole person, who we might not have met yet.

03-18-2010 , 08:42 PM

#372

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I think it's possible Jacob and Smokey are one and the same. Two halves of one former whole person, who we might not have met yet.

and if they touch, the world will end?

03-18-2010 , 08:46 PM

#373

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????

This event happened before the Incident...

So? We don't even know for sure how the timeline "split". There has been nothing that has been different before the incident that we know of, but that doesn't mean nothing has changed before it.