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03-09-2016 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Lol. Wtf? Do you think people read the majority of your posts? I have seen you say that you are part of "team innocent". That is where I drew that conclusion. And you just confirmed it for me.
Well, yes, obviously the smart people do.
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03-09-2016 , 10:02 PM
Nah
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03-09-2016 , 10:09 PM
No but srsly, you people have gone to doubleplus plaid plus double rainbow all up ITT.


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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Lol. Wtf? Do you think people read the majority of your posts? I have seen you say that you are part of "team innocent". That is where I drew that conclusion. And you just confirmed it for me.
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
You haven't hidden your opinion but you haven't argued it

LOL

Of course no one can make that distinction, bc it makes no sense

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That you can't make this distinction is, while not wholly surprising, almost too perfectly thematic to be real.

That you can't make this distinction is, while not wholly surprising, almost too perfectly thematic to be real.

That you can't make this distinction is, while not wholly surprising, almost too perfectly thematic to be real.


That you can't make this distinction is, while not wholly surprising, almost too perfectly thematic to be real.

That you can't make this distinction is, while not wholly surprising, almost too perfectly thematic to be real.

That you can't make this distinction is, while not wholly surprising, almost too perfectly thematic to be real.

That you can't make this distinction is, while not wholly surprising, almost too perfectly thematic to be real.

so intense





I feel like I was linguistically crying wolf by calling you people idiots earlier. I'm not left with much after that except some Orwellian doubleplusidiot declarations.
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03-09-2016 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
Nah
So it's almost lolobv that Failey and Poorshillz are trollbots, but what's your excuse?

Revots isn't trolling and that's why he doesn't stick his head out with such frequency, but you just continually put yourself right in front of the crosshairs. I honestly don't get it.

Sidebar: Let's explore the mind of Angerpush. It seems relevant if it can somehow relate to the mindset of a jury member or other person involved in this case.
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03-09-2016 , 10:30 PM
You have stated you believe SA is innocent. I believe you have argued it too. Not to the extent you have argued other things itt, but yes, you have. It was a very goofy sentence. You do that a lot. Trying to sound intelligent while having gaps in logic.

A lot of what you say is not worth a better response than "nah"
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03-09-2016 , 10:34 PM
Explore all you want. I just simply don't have the time to commit to this thread that I did in January. Maybe it's my busy season or something.

So yeah, I'll post a one-liner here or there. Apologies if that comes off as trolling. You have been incredibly caustic itt. And haven't added much of value in some time. Personal attacks, your own one-liners, cute little rainbows tho.
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03-09-2016 , 10:40 PM
5ive I'm more inclined to believe that the trial was a sham and that there is no way that Avery should have been convicted and very well could be truly innocent but bro, you are really doing a ****ty job when it comes to posting a bunch of nitpicky bull**** that doesnt matter itt
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03-09-2016 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
I didn't get that at all.

I think he couched his opinion based on "only what he had seen in the first two episodes" and further explains that because of the formula of a doc., he expected it to be that way - that the evidence would pile up against S.A. (so that the rest of the doc. could knock it down).

I believe he gives his thoughts and impressions contemporaneously with this viewing and when he states that the evidence against S.A. is "overwhelming" that it only so, if it is "legitimate." (or something to that effect).

From reading his posts, he seems to zero right in on Hillegas and adds to the many questions of Hillegas that we already identified in this thread.

I am very interested in what he says going forward as he will provide his conclusion based on the doc. and then he will do his own research and follow up.
I'll need to read more than the 1st 2 blog posts, opps caught me oski.
& see what happens going forward.
I admit the guy does put a lot into such a smallish & well worded piece, & am interested what he's saying about RH.

Apologies oski
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03-09-2016 , 10:58 PM
Lol at not reading what 5ive posts. He's one of the few people doing any digging.

FYI I've read the entirety of every post in this thread and most of the linked to material. There's no excuse for being an active participant in this thread and not having read everything.

Well other than the excuse of being a troll.
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03-09-2016 , 11:04 PM
Wat? Is reading this thread and all the propaganda that Skillz keeps posting from his favorite site your full time job?
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03-09-2016 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
You have stated you believe SA is innocent. I believe you have argued it too. Not to the extent you have argued other things itt, but yes, you have.
Well, fine, this is the response I initially expected. Lol, we can argue about whether or not I argued the opinion but it's probably safe to say neither of us wants to do that.

The point is that you used "too". I underlined it. Based on that you clearly DO understand the difference between stating an opinion, an opinion that could be silly and largely based on gut feelings, and presenting an argument that the opinion has merit.

That's why I brought up trolling, because while reading that post I thought it was literally impossible for you to not understand the concept and that you were faking not understanding for the lulz or the whatevz. Which is fine; it's all entertaining to me, just different types of entertainment.

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It was a very goofy sentence. You do that a lot.
I'll chalk this up to being slightly stubborn, as it can't be goofy if you clearly understood the clear and common concept.


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Trying to sound intelligent while having gaps in logic.

A lot of what you say is not worth a better response than "nah"

I want to say that might be because I'm doing a poor job dumbing myself down, but ehhh... Also, "nah" is fine as long as you include it in or with an animated GIF.
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03-09-2016 , 11:07 PM
Well it helps that PoorShillz keeps reposting the same tired crap.

I guess I read quickly. I check the thread a couple times throughout the day, usually while taking a dump, and then once before bed. It's not exactly a huge time commitment
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03-09-2016 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by blackize5
Lol at not reading what 5ive posts. He's one of the few people doing any digging.

FYI I've read the entirety of every post in this thread and most of the linked to material. There's no excuse for being an active participant in this thread and not having read everything.

Well other than the excuse of being a troll.
No one reads everything
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03-09-2016 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by yeotaJMU
5ive I'm more inclined to believe that the trial was a sham and that there is no way that Avery should have been convicted and very well could be truly innocent but bro, you are really doing a ****ty job when it comes to posting a bunch of nitpicky bull**** that doesnt matter itt
Honestly, tell me which parts and I'll dial it back. I'm already in animated GIF and low-content post rehab starting yesterday.

You might be referring to the recent stuff about the specifics of corpse mutilation? If so, I'll admit I took the bait but I was so amazed that they were speaking with such ignorant conviction, even quoting the transcripts but failing to read the very next half-page where All Would Be Revealed...

Whoa, let me calm down again.
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03-09-2016 , 11:20 PM
just stop arguing the semantics about how you said something or the details of this or that or stuff that doesnt matter

i appreciate all the work youve done with the transcripts and other documents fwiw
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03-09-2016 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
I'll need to read more than the 1st 2 blog posts, opps caught me oski.
& see what happens going forward.
I admit the guy does put a lot into such a smallish & well worded piece, & am interested what he's saying about RH.

Apologies oski
no need to apologize. I actually disagree with Moore on his Amanda Knox analysis - but I believe that had more to do with him working from bad information.

Anyhow, I find his blog on the film fascinating because he gives a lot of good insight as to how he would pursue the case.
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03-10-2016 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by yeotaJMU
just stop arguing the semantics about how you said something or the details of this or that or stuff that doesnt matter

i appreciate all the work youve done with the transcripts and other documents fwiw
agree but i enjoy reading the meat of 5ive's posts. can't read all but i try to stay abreast of current happenings.
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03-10-2016 , 01:33 PM
By the way I have since watched the following docs based on recommendations in the thread.

The staircase

A Murder in the Park

Both are highly recommended by me and I suggest anyone who enjoyed making a murderer to also check those out asap.
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03-10-2016 , 01:38 PM
I just watched Gideons Army and would check that out too.
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03-10-2016 , 01:58 PM
I feel like making a murderer has ruined me for other true crime shows. Since seeing making a murderer I've seen The Jinx and Dream/Killer and listened to Serial and thought they were only ok. And actually I thought Serial was kind of bad.
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03-10-2016 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
no need to apologize.I had too Oski, I rushed to comment(Badly)when I had not watched it all.
I actually disagree with Moore on his Amanda Knox analysis - but I believe that had more to do with him working from bad information.
This.Prob why I did not continue with it. Gonna start 2nt.

Anyhow, I find his blog on the film fascinating because he gives a lot of good insight as to how he would pursue the case.
This would be interesting too from A FBI guy, John A Cameron gave some insight into how a investigation should be handled but only covered the small details.(bullet, key)

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Originally Posted by RichGangi
I just watched Gideons Army and would check that out too.
Cool Rich I will check this out over the weekend.

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Originally Posted by blackize5
I feel like making a murderer has ruined me for other true crime shows. Since seeing making a murderer I've seen The Jinx and Dream/Killer and listened to Serial and thought they were only ok. And actually I thought Serial was kind of bad.
This.
I Ended up watching The Jinx as background noise lol but the last episode was pretty good that I had TO STAY TUNED.
I seen the rest apart from serial & because of the MaM threads i've been in Its ruined it for me.

Its funny Fraley keeps posting those same Doc's lol I wonder why lOl. Why not post those depositions Fraley from the Civil Case, even poorskillz shouted about them earlier but can't post them,I mean ffs guys.



Posted from reddit, Thanks SkippTopp
Zellner's Latest Motions...
It's nothing earth-shattering, but in case you're curious about the status in filing the record with the appeals court, here is Zellner’s Motion to Correct the Record and Motion for Additional Time to Inspect the Record, filed March 8, 2016:
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-co...-2016Mar08.pdf
The aforementioned motions are the latest ones shown in the Court Record of Events.
Zellner is asking the Clerk of the Court to review the Compliation of Record (index of documents) and make corrections, as needed, to ensure it's complete and accurate. She's also asking for 21 days to review the record for prior to it being filed with the court of appeals; sounds like they have to do that review in person at the Manitowoc County Courthouse.
Not coincidentally, I too had some confusion about the documents labeled as "envelopes containing..." These are among the ones that were included in the most recent batch of documents, which were delayed because I initially thought they were sealed and not available for request. Turns out that was incorrect, save for the one that explicitly says "sealed".
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/keydocuments/

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03-10-2016 , 09:23 PM
Not sure what you are talking about. I just saw murder in a park per Skillz recommendation and Lost is actually the one who suggested the Staircase. I just thought the people who enjoyed MAM would also enjoy those.
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03-10-2016 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
no need to apologize. I actually disagree with Moore on his Amanda Knox analysis - but I believe that had more to do with him working from bad information.

Anyhow, I find his blog on the film fascinating because he gives a lot of good insight as to how he would pursue the case.
Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito is one of the easiest to suss out wrongful conviction cases there is. It's up there with Russ Faria.
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03-11-2016 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
I just watched Gideons Army and would check that out too.
These people are true american hero's who work tirelessly to help the unfortunate, the evil & young misguided people.
This Doc need its own thread in politic's.

TY for the link Rich.

Spoiler:
Only 1 More Tattoo.....
Travis Williams, The True American Hero of the justice system. Indeed the 3 P.D were.
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03-11-2016 , 05:26 PM
Kathleen Zellner ‏@ZellnerLaw Great News that Charles Erickson is going to fight his conviction. He is 100% innocent. #FreeCharlesErickson #48hours #Dateline #CPDdisgrace

Kathleen Zellner ‏@ZellnerLaw 6s6 seconds ago Steven Avery & Charles Erickson have something in common: Framed & blamed for someone else's crime.#MakingAMurderer #FreeCharlesErickson



Moore to the Story....Episode 6 Testing the evidence, The mysterious Bullet.
http://gmancasefile.com/moore-to-the-story.html

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