Barry should just have a knife. That way he would be unbeatable take down nearly all enemies with the speed force stab to the ribs technique, his only vulnerability would be batman.

(Earth-2 also has a Johnny Quick)

We're not dealing with Earth-1 and Earth-2 though. We're dealing with Earth-1CW and Earth-2CW.

We already know Earth-1 and Earth-1CW are different. ie; on Earth-1 Ras is a Batman villain, Vibe has different powers, Killer Frost is a Firestorm Villain, and Firestorm isn't The Human Torch.

There are 52 open portals. Presumably that's not coincidence and they all point to different Earths. So Zoom may be grabbing cannon fodder from any of these universes.

An interesting point is that Jay lost his powers on Earth-1. Presumably because he's cut off from his own speed force. Which has some precedent in DC vs Marvel but is not generally the case within the DC multiverse. Does this mean Zoom is also depowered outside his own universe? It didn't look like it when he grabbed Sand Demon. Sooo....?

shouldnt Tom Cavanaugh be technically just a random scientist in the other universe? since eobard thawne didnt steal his body n stuff

He was already planning on building the reactor and stuff pre-Thawne. Thawne just accelerated it.

52 is no coincidence. It comes from a DC revamp, The New 52, done in 2011.

Given the new half of Firestorm is black, Wally West is supposed to be showing up, and I don't think the name of the young man was given in the preview, I wonder if it is Wally West.

In the comics, the young man's name is Jason Rusch.

Also, what was with the smile on Dr. Wells' face?

Is the other half of Firestorm black in the comics now? I haven't read any in years, but last I knew it was always Ronnie and Dr Stein.

Jason Rusch is black, but I don't know who the current combination is.

It turns out the CW character is named Jay Jackson.

Is the Dr Wells we see the same guy from last season or a different version?

This season ain't **** man.

It is the Wells from another Earth that we saw last episode.

Wells from Earth 2. I think the evil grin is a red herring and Wells is actually some awesome dude in Earth 2. Maybe he's tracking Zoom or something who knows

Yea I meant could it be Earth 1 Wells acting as Earth 2.

Sounds like its not but was just checking.

+1 to red herring

i thought this too. i would guess in some parallel universes it would be tom, and in others it would be eobard. so basically its whatever they want to do for earth 2

Good guy Wells would be fun. Could further teach Barry to trust again.

I don't how all this stuff works but guessing good guy wells couldn't work on Earth 1 if he admitted to murder so he''d need to either stay on Earth 2 or hide.

so was it not clear that wells 1 is dead, or otherwise ceased to exist? i don't get how the same one could be alive, didn't the S1 finale close that possibility off? maybe I'm not remembering it right

I either don't remember or I wasn't paying attention but its a comic book show and dead doesn't always = dead.

I mean the only way the same Wells could be alive in a different earth would be if he was sucked into the singularity or w/e. I don't recall that happening at the end of S1; I think he just disappeared because eddy killed himself and he ceased to exist. He didn't get sucked into anything (did he?)

Wells 1 is dead (eobard killed him)
Wells 2 is from earth 2
Wells 3 is from earth 3 etc.

Eobard 1 is dead (eddie 1 killed himself)
EObard 2 could I suppose be on Earth 2 (but he would have had to come back from future Earth 2 - and also doesn't mean he took Wells 2's body)

That being said, I think it's likely Wells 2 is just a normal guy. Good guy Wells incoming

I expect Wells-2 to be a self centered egomaniac, but basically good.

I would be really disappointed if he had any connection to Zoom.

Would actually be pretty funny if Wells 2 ends up helping the team not unlike Wells 1 did but with actual good intentions, and the emotional #strugglez Barry would have with it

capt cold episodes are always very very stupid

Lol at how lasers work in this universe.

This show is getting really dumb right now. And not just the lolaser stuff.