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07-16-2012 , 04:08 PM
Now that Beneke is alive there's no stopping the absurd derails this thread is bound to take!
07-16-2012 , 04:09 PM
For those that have seen the possible spoiler on the madrigal website:

Spoiler:
Maybe the bank account will lead to Elliot and Hank will remember Walt knows him and will ask him who he is and why he pops up in the investigation to Gus/Heisenberg... And then Walt goes crazy .
07-16-2012 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakinmecrzy
How the bank account will lead back to walt is what I wonder as well. Something to do with marked bills, I imagine.

I'm really not trolling, just to ME, as a viewer with an above average knowledge of HD's and how computers work, it was not readily apparent to me that they intended the viewer to assume that the laptop was completely destroyed, or that the magnet wiping the HD was the plan all along. I suppose someone with no knowledge will say, "Oh, screen cracked, game over man." and someone with partial knowledge will go, "Oh, hard drive wiped by magnet, game over."


Oh well.
breaking bad actually respects their viewers and does't spell out everything for them. the magnets were used to wipe out the hard drive, not crash it against the wall and break it. if the latter was the case, walt would have set the magnet at 11 from the start to pick up as much momentum as possible. he wouldn't creep it to the wall first and then slam on the pedal.
07-16-2012 , 04:17 PM
Also, if the point of the magnet was just physical destruction, why was Jesse suggesting that as an alternative to just bowing the room up- which we know Walt could do.
07-16-2012 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by imjoshsizemore
0% chance of Ted being alive just so Ted can be alive, it has to serve as some sort of plot purpose.
Well, it kinda already has. Skylar was pretty shook when she saw what had happened to Ted basically because of her.


On another note, nice to see that it took this thread all of one episode to get SUPER ******ed with this wiping HD/physically destroying nonsense. The only important thing is that the show has clearly articulated to us that the laptop is no longer a threat.
07-16-2012 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Also, if the point of the magnet was just physical destruction, why was Jesse suggesting that as an alternative to just bowing the room up- which we know Walt could do.
as he demonstrated with his hand gestures, the point of the magnet was to suck it into the wall and smash it.

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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Well, it kinda already has. Skylar was pretty shook when she saw what had happened to Ted basically because of her.


On another note, nice to see that it took this thread all of one episode to get SUPER ******ed with this wiping HD/physically destroying nonsense. The only important thing is that the show has clearly articulated to us that the laptop is no longer a threat.
and it didn't seem clearly articulated to me, but whatever.
07-16-2012 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Also



The wives tale that's true? Yes- I do think it's fair to assume that most reasonable humans are aware that magnets can do damage to electronics.

My dad used to have a powered one specifically for erasing reel to reel tape in his radio days, it was kinda awesome.
fwiw , tapes, floppy's etc are far far easier to wipe with a magnet then a hdd.

But they are 100% going for the "Magnets how do they work" angle of frying a hard drive. They throw the "physical" damage on the laptop and show it getting smashed for the simple folk who don't actually understand this.
07-16-2012 , 04:28 PM
You're making me crazy.
07-16-2012 , 04:28 PM
What if the laptop wasn't far from the wall closest to the magnet? There's a million reasons why they weren't trying to break the evidence within the laptop through acceleration via magnet and deceleration via wall. Let's not even bother pointing them out anymore.
07-16-2012 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
... important thing is that the show has clearly articulated to us that the laptop is no longer a threat.
So much of this its not even funny
07-16-2012 , 04:34 PM
LOL @ anyone still thinking the Madrigal website is anything other than a fanpage designed to get money for selling DVDs.
07-16-2012 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
For those that have seen the possible spoiler on the madrigal website:

Spoiler:
Maybe the bank account will lead to Elliot and Hank will remember Walt knows him and will ask him who he is and why he pops up in the investigation to Gus/Heisenberg... And then Walt goes crazy .
Wouldn't be too surprised if this happened.
07-16-2012 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakinmecrzy
as he demonstrated with his hand gestures, the point of the magnet was to suck it into the wall and smash it.



and it didn't seem clearly articulated to me, but whatever.
No.

The hand gesture was sucking the date out of the laptop.
07-16-2012 , 04:42 PM
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Busting the Biggest PC Myths
We expose the bad advice that wastes your time and money.

By Gregg Keizer
Magnets zap your data.

Photograph: Chip Simons For venerable floppies, this statement holds true. We placed a 99-cent magnet on a 3.5-inch floppy for a few seconds. The magnet stuck to the disk and ruined its data.

Fortunately, most modern storage devices, such as SD and CompactFlash memory cards, are immune to magnetic fields. "There's nothing magnetic in flash memory, so [a magnet] won't do anything," says Bill Frank, executive director of the CompactFlash Association. "A magnet powerful enough to disturb the electrons in flash would be powerful enough to suck the iron out of your blood cells," says Frank.

The same goes for hard drives. The only magnets powerful enough to scrub data from a drive platter are laboratory degaussers or those used by government agencies to wipe bits off media. "In the real world, people are not losing data from magnets," says Bill Rudock, a tech-support engineer with hard-drive maker Seagate. "In every disk," notes Rudock, "there's one heck of a magnet that swings the head."


http://www.pcworld.com/article/11657..._pc_myths.html
Draw your own conclusions. But to me, I don't think using an electro-magnet outside a building would be able to wipe an HD. So if they are sticking to "real world" then they were obv going for physical destruction in which case the HD would be recoverable imo.

That said I expect it to have been destroyed/non-recoverable in the show obv and think they were implying the wiping rather than physically destorying angle
07-16-2012 , 04:44 PM






07-16-2012 , 04:47 PM
tl;dr everything so far in here (ok just lazy woteva). But thought the first episode was fairly great. Not let down at all.

Don't mind Ted still being here. Ofc we all hate him and everything about him, but Skilor needs a subplot and Ted is it.

Absolutely loved the entire magnet deal. Up to and including Walter just having to turn the dial all the way to full on Heisenberg. And mike. MIKE! <3 And ofc Saul, am expecting big things from Saul.

Great first Ep, the hooks are still deep.
07-16-2012 , 04:49 PM
Not overly keen on them now deciding Ted isnt dead when he clearly was until they sat down to write this season.

The ******ation in this thread is already too high.
07-16-2012 , 04:53 PM
C'mon dudes. Stop being ******ed. This NYTimes link was posted a couple of pages ago, but I feel like it needs to be posted again: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/ar...tion.html?_r=1

Gilligan clearly states that the objective of the magnet was to erase the data from distance.

/End of discussion.
07-16-2012 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CHAMPIONS
Draw your own conclusions. But to me, I don't think using an electro-magnet outside a building would be able to wipe an HD. So if they are sticking to "real world" then they were obv going for physical destruction in which case the HD would be recoverable imo.

That said I expect it to have been destroyed/non-recoverable in the show obv and think they were implying the wiping rather than physically destorying angle
BB is a lot of great things but it often strays from realistic.
07-16-2012 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by splashpot
Good call. The manual def looks like it says M60

Roommate just pointed out that the rounds obviously say TRACER on them, can't wait.
07-16-2012 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by killa
fwiw , tapes, floppy's etc are far far easier to wipe with a magnet then a hdd.

But they are 100% going for the "Magnets how do they work" angle of frying a hard drive. They throw the "physical" damage on the laptop and show it getting smashed for the simple folk who don't actually understand this.
Yea this

After reading the article, confirmed crappy writing
07-16-2012 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cydonia

Gilligan clearly states that the objective of the magnet was to erase the data from distance.

/End of discussion.
BUT WHAT DOES THE CREATOR OF THE SHOW KNOW?

A few things of note...

1) Anna Gunn just doesn't have much depth. I, in rewatching season 4, was somewhat impressed with her. She struggled well with her own breaking bad storyline and it was realistic in how she was sort of struggling to come to grip with kind of liking her new life (when business was "flourishing" at the car wash.

But her reactions to Walt in this episode just didn't make much sense to me. I mean, she should be scared. But just saying it doesn't make it true.

2) This is going back to season 4, but... is it not weird that Walt/Jesse just blew up the lab in broad daylight? A bunch of the workers saw them pretty consistently and saw them walking out that day. Sorry, I rewatched the finale before watching the S5 premiere and this was weird to me.

3) Good premiere. I liked how Walt was irked at Walt Jr. talking about Hank being a hero, you could immediately see that bothered him. Someone else is always getting credit (Gale, Hank)
07-16-2012 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakinmecrzy


and it didn't seem clearly articulated to me, but whatever.
I really hope you're trolling. Both the fact that they were trying to wipe the HD and the fact that they succeeded were super obvious.
07-16-2012 , 05:13 PM
Right, because bringing down a 737 was totally realistic.

Do you guys ever just try to suspend your disbelief and enjoy a show? Ever?
07-16-2012 , 05:17 PM
It seemed clear to me that things have completely gone to **** by the time of the opening scene/flash-forward. Lots of distance between where we are now and that scene, I think. I'm calling it as being in the last three episodes of the series.

      
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