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rewatching "shotgun", how come there was no additional heat on Los pollos/gus when the truck was left with bullet holes and 2 dead guys who had automatic weapons in the back? Do we just assume the cartel took care of it later? it looks pretty clear the initial guys fled the scene...

I think Mike went and cleaned up the scene. It seemed pretty middle-of-nowhere so it's unlikely authorities would just stumble upon it. & I think you can see the truck later in the episode, maybe at the laundromat.

06-24-2012 , 11:34 AM

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nath

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what i mean is - since walt did hector a favor and hooked him up with the bomb and stuff, maybe hector did walt a favor and used his connections with the higher ups in the cartel to hook up walt before he blew himself up. like maybe there's a lab waiting for walt in chile or something? and he'll try to convince his family to come with him then BOOM walt jr gets kidnapped by jesse and he can't go.

killing Gus is a pretty damn big favor to Walt in and of itself. I don't see why you think there needs to be extra consideration from either side in this deal.

06-24-2012 , 12:35 PM

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People who think Jesse is not evil are

a) forgetting how they felt about Walt before he let Jane die; and

b) have a pretty warped sense of morality given Jesse has been dealing meth for years with the only rationelle being his own financial gain.

Can't disagree more not only are Jesse's actions completely understandable, considering what we know of his backstory but he clearly shows remorse and a willingness to change.

I also don't hate Walt and while I highly, highly doubt he goes for any moral redemption in the show, I just don't see his actions being beyond redemption if he somehow survives a decade or 2 :P. I'm hella in the minority though, I have empathy for pretty much everyone.

06-24-2012 , 01:13 PM

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pure speculation with no basis but my imagination

Spoiler:

06-24-2012 , 01:30 PM

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killing Gus is a pretty damn big favor to Walt in and of itself. I don't see why you think there needs to be extra consideration from either side in this deal.

just buzzed and throwing out ideas cause it's fun and the show is ****ing amazing, and i'm amped for season 5 like it's the OC and i'm a grade 7 schoolgirl.

another one: keith jardine makes another cameo appearance

06-24-2012 , 07:26 PM

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I think Walt will end up sacrificing himself for his family...it satisfies martyr complex. And he won't have to be there to help Skyler clean up the mess he has made.

06-24-2012 , 07:46 PM

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I think Walt will end up sacrificing himself for his family...it satisfies martyr complex. And he won't have to be there to help Skyler clean up the mess he has made.

It would be more fun the other way around imo

06-24-2012 , 08:12 PM

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pure speculation with no basis but my imagination

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I love this idea. I don't think it belongs in spoiler tags, though - you're giving yourself a little too much credit there.

06-24-2012 , 08:49 PM

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pure speculation with no basis but my imagination

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Not a huge fan of Walt getting out of it that easily. Death is too easy of an out.

06-24-2012 , 11:35 PM

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I'm fully expecting Walt to be alive at the end of the series. Just call it a hunch.

06-24-2012 , 11:38 PM

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I wonder if the cancer will come back. When Andy Whitfield went into remission, there was a period where I thought he'd make a full recovery -- then it came back and he died quickly thereafter. I can see there being a certain irony in Walt saving his own ass (and Jesse's and maybe even Hank's and Skyler's) not just by killing Gus but removing even more threats, but then succumbing to the very thing that inspired his new career in the first place.

06-25-2012 , 12:33 AM

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Not a huge fan of Walt getting out of it that easily. Death is too easy of an out.

I'm pretty sure he will die, though. And I don't think this out is easy-- he'll be completely alone before he dies. He'll have murdered family members and completely ostracized his remaining ones. He won't be able to leave them any money. The one person left who has any loyalty to him will turn on him too. He'll die completely alone, with his family knowing what a horrible monster he truly is, and the only legacy he'll have left behind is that he destroyed the lives of everyone he came in contact with.

06-25-2012 , 10:07 AM

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Being murdered is definitely too easy though. Dying of cancer would be much more fitting, especially in a painful way, while he is alone.

What would be awesome is if his family got a bunch of money and was well taken care of by means other than his own hand.

06-25-2012 , 10:57 AM

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I predict Walt will kill big in the last season. Jesse, cartel and DEA. His family will alienate him and he will commit suicide by deliberately overdosing on his own meth.

06-25-2012 , 01:30 PM

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I've been thinking about Walt's cancer coming back in s5, but ultimately I don't see it happening. Main reason being I think it would remind the audience too much of s1 Walt when they still felt bad for him. I think the writers want to use s5 to eradicate any shred of sympathy the viewer still has for Walt.

Him losing his family, his money and Jesse before being sentenced to a life sentence would probably be the worst outcome for him so I'll go with that. Let him rot in a jail cell to WONDER if his cancer will ever return while he contemplates how he wrecked everything and everyone he ever cared about.

06-25-2012 , 01:33 PM

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Sucks for those with Dish/DirecTV that AMC might get dropped. If it should actually happen, that would be a swift kick in the nuts like 2 weeks before the season premiere

Dish and Direct Tv are not the same. Just Dish is dropping AMC ( At least i think I'm correct )

06-25-2012 , 03:12 PM

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06-25-2012 , 03:15 PM

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That's actually better then the Arrested Development Lego set.

I'll take 'em both though.

06-25-2012 , 04:01 PM

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The only thing that could have been better than Gale's coffee machine is a Lego version.

Well done.

06-25-2012 , 04:08 PM

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Dish and Direct Tv are not the same. Just Dish is dropping AMC ( At least i think I'm correct )

You're right here.

06-25-2012 , 04:15 PM

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how many scenes total so far with walt in his undies?

06-25-2012 , 06:07 PM

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Oh, I'm watching S2E12 ("Phoenix") again-- and when Walt goes to Saul to complain and find a way to launder his money, he refuses to consider any option that involves anything but him getting the credit! "No blind luck or wealthy benefactor, they have to know it comes from me." He doesn't even want to launder it through Walt Jr.'s website and is super resentful of the idea. "Ratting a tin cup for charity on the Internet."

06-25-2012 , 06:07 PM

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it's not like gale didn't know what was going to happen to walt once he mastered walt's technique

06-25-2012 , 06:17 PM

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This. Walt is selfish and has always wanted the credit. I'm rewatching Season 4 now, and just say the scene where Walt tells Hank that Gale wasn't the genius, that the genius was maybe still out there.

06-25-2012 , 06:26 PM

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"I am the one who knocks."

Walt either really thinks this about himself, or he wants to be "that guy." He's not (at this point of the show, anyway). Walt is delusional.

Going into season 5, Walt will now have to face what "being the one who knocks" really means.

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