THATS HOW EVERYONE EATS YOU ******, LIKE A BILLION MOVIES AND SHOWS HAVE A SCENE WHERE TWO CHARACTERS EAT A MEAL

Edit: FOR ****'S SAKE THEY ARE EATING BREAKFAST IN BOTH SCENES.

FORESHADOWING IS LIKE MIDDLE SCHOOL ENGLISH SO ITS UNDERSTANDABLE TO **** THAT UP, BUT "WHICH MEAL HAS PANCAKES" IS PRETTY ****ING EASY TO GET RIGHT

observer1 did obv.


+1

This is the drawback to shows like BB getting popular and also ending. (I'm not saying I was an early adopter of this show because I wasn't, but man do I hate people trying to look for connections like the ones attempted above)

TONY MONTANA AND WALTER WHITE BOTH SIT IN THE DRIVER'S SIDE OF CARS. Just saying.

If Jesse ends up dead on a toilet and Walt ends up black you have to apologise

STEERING WHEELS ARE ROUND. LIKE CIRCLES. LIKE MOLECULES?

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MARIE IS GOING TO KILL WALT BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO **** SKYLAR

Pretty much this for me, but part of me kinda wants them to try to redeem Walt just to see if it can be done.

For those who care to look for these sorts of things, the CBS News Sunday Morning interview of Cranston last week showed them filming a scene that gives away a spoilerish plot point from later this season.

Something I'd really like to know is what the alternative threads were that got dropped. Like they said that they didn't decide on the book being how Hank would find out until halfway through season 5, I want to know what other clues they were thinking of.

Everyone missed that reference:

1) That scene with Fredo is actually in the Godfather II.
2) That scene is Mike confronting Fredo with his knowledge while pretending everything is OK. His hands are on Fredo in an embrace. It's threatening while being controlled. Hank's are on Walt because he was beating him.
3) So almost all of the words and the entire context between the two lines are different. That made the reference very easy to miss! Maybe a little too easy.

Forget redeeming Walt. He's been a great character but I don't know that I'll be fully satisfied unless he ends up in a plastic barrel. With a closeup of his face mashed up against the inside. Fade to black. I hope he puts up a great fight on the way out though to make it interesting.

Very possible that they do a Chigurh deal with him, where everyone else dies and he gets away without a scratch. But then his entire family is wiped out and he's got basically nothing.

I think the ridiculous over analysis can be traced to a couple things:

1. High school English usually teaches that the key to understanding literature is finding and understanding symbols. While taking some college lit or film classes will show that this is at best incomplete, most people will automatically hunt for symbols when they're looking for a "deeper meaning."

2. There is definitely some foreshadowing, symbolism, conscious use of color, etc in Breaking Bad. There is also the conscious use of callbacks (these can be misinterpreted as foreshadowing) and there is also just plain coincidence.

3. Some shows/movies deliberately include clues for observant viewers to pick up on.

4. Some shows/movies have deliberately included hints about the ending.

5. There have been some works with the insanely detailed symbolism and layers of meaning that people are trying to ascribe to BB. James Joyce's Ulysses and numerous Kubrick films would be examples of this.

6. Asperger's and/or heavy marijuana use.

Anyone else hate "Talking Bad"? Julie Bowen needs to step the eff down.

(didn't help that I watched that after listening to the insider podcast)

I don't even know why I open this thread on not-Sunday.

Yeah, they're idiots writing themselves into corners. Sometimes a genius like Gilligan will be humble and not tell you the truth. But who knows, maybe you are smarter than him. Maybe only you know how to foreshadow, not Gilligan.

I mean if it makes very little sense to foreshadow than why do it? Right? So why did/does he do it? Is he an idiot for not following your advice that it makes very little sense? To say that he doesn't foreshadow is beyond ridiculous. I don't even know how anyone can think that? Maybe sometimes he uses an old episode and fits it in a new episode to make it look like foreshadowing sometimes, MAYBE. But he sure wants it to look like foreshadowing doesn't he? Why? You seem to think its stupid and he doesn't do it. And other times he DEFINATELY is foreshadowing in its truest form. When Mike's tv talks about a cop killing himself and then panning to Hank making an awkward face, then later on in the episode has him using his finger to make it look like he wants to shoot himself in the head for having to listen to Walt whine about his marital problems, and Jesse saying "i won't be happy until he(Hank) puts a gun in his mouth and pulls the trigger, THAT'S HOW IT ENDS!" Whether Gilligan changes his mind on killing Hank or not, it is obvious that's where he was going with those foreshadowing moments.

Also, how do you know that they didn't know what to do with it when it first happened? They definately planned ahead, i don't care what they pretend by saying we write ourselves into corners, we don't think ahead. When they first made the seasons 1st titles they were a link(clues) to the plane crash. ABQ whatever all the titles added up to.

Another color symbolism by Gilligan.....

Jane's dad on the phone with her mother "i can't find anything blue(in here closet looking for funeral dress), everything is black and gray." Forget the colors he said except for no blue. Blue is the good/pure color the show represents.

For anyone to say color symbolism isn't a HUGE part of what this show does is ridiculous. Some are like "sure maybe there is some symbolic meaning in colors but not much like people think" are insane. Why do all the characters have their own color if its not a huge part? What show ever made their character always wear purple like Marie? Or blue like Skyler?

The symbolism and foreshadowing is everywhere. If you guys choose to not see it doesn't make it any less true.

Is that the pic after they spent all nite cleaning up the murder in the lab? Where Walt is wearing a Kenny Rogers ****? If so, i don't know what to tell you except you are completely wrong if you don't think they were paying homage to that Sam Jackson and Travolta scene. They pay homage to many scenes from famous movies since the start. And some weren't even just paying homage but foreshadowing, we didn't know that then, but we do now.

They are not gonna make a scene word for word, movement for movement. But they make it enough so people that are sharp enough to pick it up can see it.

Hank "It was you" and grabs Walt. Michael "it was you" and grabs Fredo in an embrace, but it was an embrace like you betrayed me, very aggressive, not friendly. Its a subtle homage to Godfather (part 2, excuse us for just saying Godfather), but a homage nonetheless.

How can u not realize that Gilligan is telling us something here? Why would he waste those minutes on such a weird story for nothing? It was his chance to put some clues in there for us to try and figure out what he's saying/telling us what may happen.

Observer1, we all understand there is symbolism in the show. However you're way off the rails here, and if you believe that 5 seasons worth of Breaking Bad were pre-planned with ever minute detail accounted for, then you're willfully ignoring reality and what VG and others have flat-out told you. Not to mentioned the fact that ideas change as they go.

From your posts it's clear you've convinced yourself this whole this is engineered from the beginning, but that just defies common sense.

In fact looking at that recent post with your drawing parallels to PF, lol. I'm sorry to laugh at you but you're coming off pretty trollish. They're eating in a restaurant. The scenes have nothing to do with each other. Did you even see Pulp Fiction?

I didn't say they didn't or can't change their minds on how the story goes. They did with jesse, they were gonna kill him and changed their minds because he was so good. But they had a plan from the beginning that we're gonna use colors for symbolism and foreshadowing. And many other things to do this as well. Foreshadowing and symbolism are a huge part of the show, otherwise why did they give the character their own color? Who the f does that? Because they had a genius plan. Just like they had a plan for Hank, and every other character. Can those plans change? Sure, why not, its their show. If one of the writers finds a different and better way to go then they would change. When they decide on the new plan they'll make sure to foreshadow it for us.

I guess instead of talking about the foreshadowing and symbolism we should talk about all the old nonsense breaking bad threads had in the past. Everyone saying Walt was always a bad man just waiting to come out, he was always evil/bad man. When Vince Gilligan says on talking bad last week "He was a good man who turned into a bad man". He says it every time asked but people argued to no end that he was always bad, and still do. At least us symbols people are bringing something new to the discussion.

p.s. I'm not going off the rails. Post whatever you want, and let me do the same without having to fight off trolls trying to derail my posts. Whether you believe my posts or not, it's obvious i put time and thought into them. They don't deserve snide one line insults just because you don't agree with them.

I like how people get super bent out of shape over a TV show, especially when they try to draw parallel lines to real life.

It's a ****ing fictitious TV show; enjoy, and stfu.

So does no-one else in this day and age just watch the ****ing show each week in order to see what happens, and eventually find out how it ends?

All this foreshadowing/theory stuff is one of the worst traits of the internet - everyone posting up their verbal diarrhea just so they can scream 'I was right!! Everyone look at me!!' if their outlandish crackpot theory somehow comes up.

He got 476 likes though... how much did your comment get?

Agreed! Let's just enjoy the show and discuss RELEVANT topics. And not try to derail others when all they were doing is discussing those relevant facts.

Relevant...? It's make believe, sorry. Try not to get your panties in a twist trying to draw parallel, real-life lines with a fictitious TV character. There's a reason why they call it fiction.