dean norris @deanjnorris
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Reasonable position. On phone now: will make the argument later.

Ray, Breaking Bad is rated TV-MA and therefore may be unsuitable for children under 17.

done successfully? it can be done easily.

How about the fact Mike tried to kill Walt in season 3, wanted to kill him after Gus died (probably would have if Jessie wasn't there to stop it) and threatened Walt to not go after his men in prison. Not to mention interfering with his business throughout season 5.

All u need to do is listen to the discussion that Walt/Jessie had in "Blood Money" and you've got your answer. If Mike was still alive then Walt would have to live in constant fear because Mike would be seeking revenge.

PSA: A Breaking Bad boner is to be referred to as a "Pinkman." E.g., "Only 3.5 more hours; I'm sporting a raging Pinkman."

interesting, its kind of what i missed, how did that go again exactly? Why did he not take the job?

Also Mike didn't say thank you to Walt so he had to go

This.

Also, Walt took the gun before giving Mike the bag and planned on killing him all along. He just wanted the names first.

I don't consider "petty revenge" to be a reasonable justification for murder, and I don't think most other people would either.

This has promise. It's been awhile since I saw the episode and I don't feel like watching it again, but did Mike explicitly threaten Walt when telling him not to go after the guys in prison? If so, I suppose that might create some tortured justification for the act.

Of course, there's a strong argument to be made that having the guys in prison killed was unjustified as well, so I'm not sure this lets him off the hook entirely.

Again, I don't consider "getting in the way" to be a reasonable justification for murder, and I don't think most other people would either.

Unrelated question: Did you support the US invasion of Iraq?

Ironic that the man who told Walter not to take any half measures did so on multiple occasions which eventually lead to his demise.

Jesus Christ, Marie.

so many people responding to the most obvious troll I've seen for years

No, I didn't like the invasion because my good friend's older step-brother was forced into combat, so I was concerned for him. TBH I don't know much about the politics involved in the war and I really don't care. I'm a very self-interested person and I only care about my immediate family and friends. If the U.S. government is hell bent on world domination (and obtaining oil) then I guess it was a smart invasion? I dunno. If the U.S. invading other countries helps me then I'm all for it, but if all it does is raise my father's taxes then I'm against it because it means less of an allowance.

How old are you?

I love this. Also love bananas.

nineteen. Yeah I know I sound like a baby using the word allowance but it's for lack of a better term...I don't know what else to call my father giving me some weekend money because he would rather I study hard in college than get a job and flunk out.

On mobile so can't do it myself, someone please post or pm a link for me to put omahahahah on ignore? Ty

You're right, they wouldn't. Walt's so-called justifications have been complete BS since just about the beginning of the show. Even if you give him a pass early on for acting out of desperation, which is pretty questionable to begin with considering we're talking about making crystal meth, he could have left the business way back in season 2. He had ~$500k at one point and wealthy friends willing to help out with his medical expenses (not to mention a good job offer with excellent medical, and likely a lot more than a teacher's salary).

He was in a position to prevent Jane from dying, he chose not to. He didn't have to poison a kid. He's also put his entire family in danger. Now, he has his wife laundering money and nearly got his brother-in-law killed. Walt wanting to empire-build to stroke his ego isn't justification for any of that, much less everything else that happened afterward.

Just throwing this out there:

Jane deserved to die.

I'm honored you want me on ignore you BB elitist idiot. ^^


Mike killed (probably) hundreds of people over his career in cold blood when it was NOT self defense. Heisenberg needed to protect himself and Skyler from jail, so he needed to kill those rat prisoners who WERE going to cut a deal. Heisenberg also had no option but to make a preemptive strike on the psychopath hitman Mike before he came back for revenge.

For being a junkie?

Total bitch is the stronger choice. She was obviously a healthy influence on Jesse.

Actually, I give him a pass because I don't think there's anything wrong with making crystal meth. I understand that's a minority position though.

I think this was a defensible decision. I probably wouldn't have saved her either.

Now, my understanding is that the script was originally written so that Walt would actively turn her over onto her back so she'd choke to death. Had he done that, I'd definitely say he crossed the line at that point. For pure consequentialists, failing to save her may seem just as bad, but I think the difference between ending a life and neglecting to prevent a death is meaningful, and I don't think Walt had an obligation to save Jane in that moment.

True, he could have just let Gus kill him. I don't think he should have though. Poisoning Brock was justifiable given the end it served, imo. I feel the same way about most actions taken in the pursuit of self-preservation.

I disagree with this characterization of Walt's actions. Other people have put his family in danger.

I don't think there's anything wrong with laundering money, and I don't think Walt can reasonably be held responsible for the twins' attempt on Hank's life.

I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to empire-build to stroke one's ego. The existence of that drive/desire is why you and I are amongst the richest humans to ever live on this planet.