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07-09-2018 , 03:43 PM
Kaitlyn and Winston don't really dislike each other. They were playing it up to keep up the blindside. They aren't close but they've never had any kind of beef.

Kaitlyn asked Winston going into the DR to vote who to vote for and he told her Steve. They kinda bonded over that.
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07-09-2018 , 03:46 PM
She wanted to go after Winston and Angela this week. Also I thought I remember her getting into it with him one day. It was a while ago maybe they ended that beef but it seemed he was one of her targets until Tyler swayed her to Swaggy.

Btw if I was Foutte I don't blame them for giving her a lot of crap. I mean she made an alliance with them and broke it for Tyler essentially. Granted tyler and other side lying to her about everything. And Swaggy, Bayleigh, and Faysal weren't doing good work to make her feel good in their alliance. But they never said they were going for her and assumed they didn't need to kiss her butt since she was in their alliance already. And Faysal been nice to her this week. For her to make this move is against him and a betrayal. He chose Tyler over him and her alliance.

Last edited by DarkCheck; 07-09-2018 at 03:53 PM.
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07-09-2018 , 03:51 PM
that’s because Winston was the main target of foute, which Kaitlin was a part of
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07-09-2018 , 03:52 PM
Kaitlyn is the best. Blindsides her alliance then tells Bayleigh that Sam got the power last week.
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07-09-2018 , 03:58 PM
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She wanted to go after Winston and Angela this week. Also I thought I remember her getting into it with him one day. It was a while ago maybe they ended that beef but it seemed he was one of her targets until Tyler swayed her to Swaggy.

Btw if I was Foutte I don't blame them for giving her a lot of crap. I mean she made an alliance with them and broke it for Tyler essentially. Granted tyler and other side lying to her about everything and Swaggy, Bayleigh, and Faysal weren't doing good work to make her feel good in their alliance. But they never said they were going for her and assumed they didn't need to kiss her butt since she was in their alliance already. And Faysal been nice to her this week. For her to make this move is against him and a betrayal. He chose Tyler over him and her alliance.
This isn't correct. Yesterday Swaggy said if he wins he's putting Kaitlyn up. No one really lied to Kaitlyn about anything Swaggy said. Even Haleigh right now told Fessie that everything Kaitlyn thinks about Swaggy is true. Swaggy actively tried to force a showmance between Fessie and Haleigh to try to paint Kaitlyn as jealous all to get the heat off of his actual showmance.

Bayleigh isn't lying when she says she understands. She knows Swaggy did all of these things.

All that being said, you're right about her choosing Tyler over her. Tyler was in the right place at the right time and used it to his advantage.

I think I just have a soft spot for Kaitlyn and understand her a little more than most people because I'm from Long Island and know how to talk to/ deal with these types of girls more than most people. Swaggy and Bayleigh aren't used to dealing with someone like Kaitlyn. Part of the game is dealing with different types of people but I should cut them a little slack.
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07-09-2018 , 04:08 PM
Yeah but Swaggy only decided to go after her because she wasn't complying with their alliance right? They were mad she didn't put up Winston and one of the other side. She was going rogue so you can't blame Swaggy for not trusting her. PLus they maybe suspected she was the swing vote last week too? Kaitlyn was the one who betrayed the alliance not Swaggy.

And when I say other side lying to her I mean referring to she had to vote out steve or she was going home etc...

Btw I like Kaitlyn too. But she is the one that ruined their team.
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07-09-2018 , 04:18 PM
The chain of events that happened last week were Swaggy told Tyler he doesn't trust Kaitlyn. I don't know if he specifically said she is on the bottom of the totem pole to Tyler but I believe he did because the 5 of Foutte already talked about how Kaitlyn will be the first to go of the group. Bayleigh and Swaggy then both confronted Kaitlyn to try to cause tension between her and Haleigh/Fessy to get the heat off of their showmance. The way they confronted her was not the way they should have. They also specifically told Haleigh not to talk to Kaitlyn and vice versa. Swaggy told everyone including Tyler that he doesn't trust Kaitlyn again. After Bayleigh confronted Kaitlyn, Kaitlyn went upstairs to Tyler's HOH to cry. He used this opportunity to tell Kaitlyn what Swaggy said. Kaitlyn then talked to Haleigh about everything and they figured out that Swaggy and Bayleigh purposely told them not to talk to each other to cause tension between them.

Swaggy also accidentally told Kaitlyn and Tyler he made a deal with the bros. He also bragged about how he has a deal with Rachel. He tried to run the show and make deals with everyone behind his alliance's back while everyone knew what he was doing.

This along with the lies of she might be in danger caused her to flip. If you ask me that is Swaggy turning on his alliance first but I guess one could argue Kaitlyn did because she actively voted against them.

If they didn't lie about her being in danger I don't think she would've flipped her vote even after all of this. I forgot they lied to her about that.
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07-09-2018 , 08:27 PM
Swaggy gives a long pitch to stay and leaves the room.

Kaitlyn: We HAVE to keep him
Tyler: No
Kaitlyn: My gut is telling me he has to go
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07-09-2018 , 08:40 PM
Rockstar is basically a slightly smarter version of Kryssie from BBOTT.
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07-09-2018 , 09:47 PM
Fessie seriously to Kaitlyn: You might be the best Big Brother player of all time.

She might actually be the best feeds of all time though. I know she's polarizing.
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07-10-2018 , 10:31 AM
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Swaggy gives a long pitch to stay and leaves the room.

Kaitlyn: We HAVE to keep him
Tyler: No
Kaitlyn: My gut is telling me he has to go
I wish she would tell us more about the color of his aura cloud
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07-10-2018 , 04:03 PM
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Rockstar is basically a slightly smarter version of Kryssie from BBOTT.
I haven’t seen her on the feeds too much, but from what I’ve read/heard she seems significantly smarter than kryssie
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07-10-2018 , 10:21 PM
She definitely understands the game pretty well. I guess I just disagree with her on a lot of her life views so slightly smarter than kryssie was a little harsh.

Apparently Kaitlyn let Swaggy and Bayleigh have sex in her HOH room as an apology/ good bye gift.
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07-11-2018 , 10:00 AM
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Dan Gheesling has a twitch stream?

https://www.twitch.tv/dangheesling
He has for years. He's also friends/gameplay mates with one of my favorite YouTubers Northernlion.
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07-12-2018 , 08:21 PM
I think the Foutte alliance members were weak/scared in not telling Kaitlyn she can't/shouldn't put Swaggy up. I mean not one of them even suggested why it wouldn't be a good idea. They just were shocked but let it happen. I guess they were afraid she might turn on them and put them up if they said something? But that is dumb. She never would have done that. Especially if her closest ally Hayleigh was the one to tell her not to do this. They could have explained to her why it wouldn't be a good move in a constructive way. Their fear of speaking up now has destroyed their side of the house. And now will get picked off one by one while Kailtyn will hang around as the other side will go after her last of that side.

All Kaitlyn needed was a little push but the only push she got was from Tyler to go the other way.
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07-12-2018 , 09:35 PM
This Tyler mastermind edit is annoying. All he’s done is got Kaitlyn to do what he/his alliance wants. And Sam told him about his power. Maybe he’ll keep doing it but we don’t know that for sure.
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07-12-2018 , 10:23 PM
i mean he reeled Sam in. it wasnt by chance that she told him about her power. i dont think the edit is undeserved
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07-12-2018 , 10:49 PM
Sam is a worse player than Victoria though. Sam basically trusted him because “he did the fair thing” and nominated the first 2 Who fell which is what every first HOH does. He even said on the show the first week he basically was at the right place at the right time with Kaitlyn and it was similar with Sam.

I’m just saying the edit isn’t entirely accurate and they’re trying to paint a picture of a mastermind after 2 weeks.

They also cut off the feeds when he was alone with Kaitlyn and people thought they might kiss. He wouldn’t have kissed her but they didn’t want to ruin his image so they turned the feeds off just in case. It makes sense that he’s on the tko show and they want to get ratings for it.

He is good at the game and he knew who the weaker players were and acted accordingly. I just think anyone decent who was in his position would’ve done similar things. A lot of things he’s done have been group decisions between him and Brett or Winston but he gets all of the credit on the show.
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07-12-2018 , 10:55 PM
I have the same problem I have with Tyler that I had with Paul. A lot of their lies could be easily figured out if the people he’s lying to had any brain cells. Just because something is working doesn’t mean they’re playing it well.
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07-12-2018 , 11:06 PM
Should be an interesting week. So many options for what could have been a very boring HOH.
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07-12-2018 , 11:12 PM
I haven’t watched feeds last 2 days. Do we know what he’s likely to do? Why did he flip his vote? If it’s because of Tyler then it could be rockstar or fessie? If he goes against Tyler it’s likely the power is used and we have a void week.
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07-12-2018 , 11:22 PM
Kaitlin’s boyfriend rescinded his waiver (and announced he was breaking up with her), so anytime he is mentioned whatsoever they switch the feeds off Kaitlin. so that is probably why it cuts off her a lot, not anything to do with tyler
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07-12-2018 , 11:27 PM
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I have the same problem I have with Tyler that I had with Paul. A lot of their lies could be easily figured out if the people he’s lying to had any brain cells. Just because something is working doesn’t mean they’re playing it well.
you have to play the people that are in the house. it remains to be seen whether it’ll work longterm, but he has clearly been very effective at forming close 1 on 1 bonds with people and being able to influence them accordingly

the bros also wanted to keep Steve last week and were set on that until Tyler changed their mind. obviously the power had a lot to do with that. but Tyler is the one forging relationships with people outside of L6 which have been huge for them. getting Kaitlin alone completely swayed the last two weeks. Winston would be out right now if it wasn’t for that. so I have a big problem with saying he deserves as much credit as Tyler, that’s frankly ridiculous. Brett is much better than Winston, and is in goodstanding with people, but Tyler is going above and beyond and influencing people from the other side, as well as constantly running interference and securing votes. making decisions is one thing, but putting in the time and effort into securing relationships and their corresponding actions is what really matters
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07-12-2018 , 11:31 PM
also Sam as a loyal number for their side when Steve likely wouldn’t have been (which also opened up Scottie to be scooped) was enough of a reason to keep her even without the power

Brett and Winston could’ve had their own motivations (personally being closer to Steve), but you can’t really say that was a group decision. It was Tyler’s decision

And you say anyone decent who was in a similar position would’ve done similar things, but you’re missing the point that Tyler put himself in this position. managing Kaitlin has been a full time job for him this last 7-8 days. Tyler has pretty much singlehandedly swayed Sam, Kaitlin, and possibly now Scottie and brought them to L6’s side. the bros are not anywhere close to this
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07-12-2018 , 11:39 PM
meanwhile, FOUTE is currently imploding

ftr no one knows Scottie’s motivations before or currently. Tyler put in a good amount of work with him though, so my guess is Tyler will once again have a lot of influence this week. Scottie has been suspicious of Haleigh for a while so this was prob the worst case scenario for her. idk what he will do though. he was also pacing and muttering to himself that he doesn’t know what he’ll do. it depends who gets in his ear. so we’ll see
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