It was decent enough, but not as good as I had hoped though. I was also not too crazy about the MOTW thing that they seem to be at least partly going for, but then I realized that after they caught those 2 guys and put them in the same upgraded Alcatraz prison that it somehow appealed to some inner need of mine for collecting things - it somehow gave me a little satisfaction. It's more interesting than the usual MOTW shows because they don't just go away, but are still present in the universe and could play a role in future episodes. And it's gonna be real interesting when they get the prison filled up at some point :P

anybody notice the little blackberry pin thing on Jack's cell?

Do you mean the QR code?

This is pretty much how I feel. I dunno, I got totally into LOST even though it had some of the goofiest plots on TV, but something about this show's premise rubs me the wrong way. Probably the fact that it's using a historical place and is going for a more gritty urban feel when the actual premise is the most absurd thing ever.

I'll probably stick around a bit to see what twists and turns there are but the first two eps didn't do too much for me. I was already pretty bored with it by the second episode.

Yeah I saw that loved the Ending were the doctor in the 1960's is the gal in the present that got shot.

I thought the 2nd ep was really bad but the first was enjoyable enough. The 2nd ep it was - go to crime scene, figure out the exact spot he shot from within 10 seconds, find the exact patch of grass he stood at. like no wandering about, just like bam he shot from there, he was standing right here and the shell will be right here, all done within 30 seconds.. I mean they could have at least made it look like they had to put in some effort.

Then the woman manages to take a sniper bullet to the heart from 50 yards away and survive.

There is no way the mythology will ever be satisfying. The reason why Lost was so great was that they kept the crazy science fiction out of it for a decent amount of time. You felt like all the mysteries would somehow be explained by some amazing reveal and it would be satisfying and within the realm of our understanding. Liike what possible reveal in this could be satisfying? Its all gonna have to be explained by some hokey time travel physics with layer upon layer of shady figures, just when you think you know whos behind it there will be another layer.

then they give us the biggest BUTNAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ever

Yeah, but Hurley didn't say "Dude" once. And I'm ok with it if it means Evangeline Lilly is showing up anytime soon. I was just waiting to see 4-8-15-16-23-42 incorporated somehow onto the show.

If he's supposed to be an evil bad ass, that's one thing, but the character is somewhat of a geek who owns a comic book shop. So I'm fine with him being like Hurley. I liked Hurley. I gave that show 6 of the best years of my life. So I don't mind if I do see these actors reminding me of their characters again in the right roles.

Im in but mehhhhhhhh so far.

Hurly isnt doing it as a sidekick yet. Sam Neil is ok. Sarah Jones rack is spectacular.

Would they have Indian female prison doctors in the 60's?

I really liked it, however I don't care for the fat guy. I wonder if I would like it if I had watched lost.

JJ Abrams is pretty smart, taking his most successful show, and re-creating what you all are saying is the basic formula of Lost. I never had time to watch that show, so I don't have any preconceptions. I felt at points Alcatraz has reminded me of Dirty Harry, The Event, X-Files, Alphas, and others I'm probably forgetting. I almost want to believe they're being intentionally derivative as some kind of inside joke.

Everyone's been trying to capture the "feel" of serialization Lost did as long as it's been gone. True serialization at the network level is dead (or on its way to being dead). Understand that, and you will probably be happy. If you want true serialization, stick to cable, it's the only place where it really works. Hiatuses just absolutely kill most serialized television, and there are frequent hiatuses on network TV.

Hybrid serialization is the best thing ever, and that's exactly what this show is. It will basically be a prisoner of the week type show, with larger plot points thrown in, in each episode. It requires far less investment from the average viewer, and, in my opinion, actually gives the show a real chance at success (die, Terra Nova, die). My guess is that not enough of you watch (or like) shows that fit into this genre, like Person of Interest, House, Burn Notice, Grimm, etc. The goal should be to get the audience to want to see the show whenever they want (without fear of not getting what's going on), instead of teasing and torturing them with a continuous story arc, that may or may not have a satisfying end. As long as this show doesn't become The Event, in four episodes, I'm cool with where it's going.

I think it's a big mistake to compare network shows to serialized successes. There are very few of serialized successes, at the network level, these days, because audiences just don't want to invest the time in following a complex story. I don't mind investing in this one. After all, it's 1000 times better than Terra Nova.

Everyone has pvr's now. It is really not that hard to tune in every week when all you have to do is set up a recording.

lol

Liked it a lot. I happen to <3 Parminder Nagra, but the show seems pretty interesting. She was just a nice bonus for me.

I thought it was mediocre. Don't wanna put the time in watching a show like lost again. When the show ends in the near or distant future I might watch it all at once.

I'm already guessing that she time traveled back to the 60's to do the experiments and that she is not a creature of the 60's, maybe not even present day. I'd guess that Neils character has zipped through a few time periods himself but time will tell. Anyway I'm expecting crappy answers if it ever makes it that far based on Losts crappy answers, which means total implausibility and 100% fantasy science fiction.

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Or it's possible they learned from the "making it up as they go along" mistakes, and actually built a real story map. It's pretty obvious a lot of work went into creating the Pilot. I'm pretty sure they really "wrote" the prisoner book that Dr. Garcia wrote. Just having a real story for each character helps them map what they want to do with the characters. I never thought of the psychiatrist as being a time traveler, but that, unfortunately, makes total sense.

As for drama behind the scenes, the co-creator of the show, Liz Sarnoff, already has stepped down as showrunner (last November). So, who knows what that means for the show?

The simplest solution is she was on staff there, travelled through time like the rest and she works with Sam Neill now, perhaps because she refused to kill her target or she was never given one as staff arent used by whoever to do whatever.

Or she works with him because of her inside "knowledge" of what happened to everyone at the prison.

Maybe I didn't understand the hospital scenes correctly, but what was the purpose of the blood shots the first bad guy had to take when he was on the hospital bad? My interpretation of that was a blood transfusion taking place where its possible that they are getting new blood which will make them immortal (and not age a bit 50 years later).

I'm pretty bad when it comes to these medical treatments and terms, so please enlighten me.

All we really know at this point is that what was happening was not what the prisoner was being told (or that he knew what was going on was unnecessary). It's being used for a purpose (or the inmate is), but we don't know why, yet.

meant to say: "hospital bed"

We dont know what the blood removal was for.

Worth noting the prisoner behind the curtain in that scene was the grandfather of the main chick who killed her partner in the opening scene. He seemed to have more knowledge than any other character we have seen thus far.

Did everyone give up on this already?

I gave up on the show. I really liked the first two episodes but I'm not feeling the fat guy. If this is a catch a guy of the week u gotta have a better character to play off the main chick cop.