Can anyone in our secondary turn and look for the ball?

Unreal. What a bunch of morans back there. Horrible play calling in our prior possession as well.

Pathetic clock management, play calling, secondary, and pass rush.

Starting to look like this team isn't as good as we thought. Still a good team but not in the top tier.

But we must lead the league in defensive pass interference penalties.

Are they not coaching the secondary to turn and look for the ball, or they are coaching them and they just suck so bad they can't even try?

If I know you're supposed to do that I'm 100% sure the Patriot coaches are teaching that technique and that every guy was also taught that in High School and college, Pop warner for that matter. These guys just suck.

Im glad we lost this game. We deserved to lose and not suck out with Brady magic for once. McDaniels play calling was terrible on the last few drives...I hope he's held accountable for that...i think he thought he was still in ****ty ass Denver with those play calls.

That's a jump I'm not willing to make yet. This team is literrally 4 points away from being undefeated. With how many mistakes they made today to only lose by one point is ridiculous. The secondary is clearly not that good but we knew that already. I'm still not concerned. If we lose at home to the Jets next week though, I'll be very concerned.

Two saving graces. First, the AFC really sucks. If Lewis and Webb are done in Baltimore it's really Houston and a lot of mediocrity or worse.

Second, the remaining road games are pretty winnable. Jets, Miami, st Louis on a neutral site, Jacksonville. So this team should win 10-11 games pretty easily.

If they implode at home against the Jets, yeah, time to revisit, but I think they win pretty easily.

Making a bunch of mistakes over the course of a bunch of games is usually not the sign of a top tier team.

Glad to see you guys live up to my expectations.

We're still the best team in the East by a country mile, only BAL and HOU ahead of us, and we only need to catch one of them to get a bye in the tournament. It's not easy to win on the road in this league, especially in that building.

The defense on their last three drives went TD, punt, TD. Up 13 with 7 minutes left they gave up a 66 yard play immediately. Up 6 with 1:30 to go they gave up an easy 45 yard TD pass in a cover two.

The defense gets a lot of the blame here.

Brady is sort of a pussy. He gets touched a couple times he's seeing monsters the rest of the game. Two obv intentional groundings, both cuz he was scared, and both awful. One cost us points.

Just poor execution all around.

As much as I would really, really, REALLY like to, I'm not sure I can disagree with this.

The first IG wasnt because he was scared, it was because of the clock.

Beating the **** out of him up the middle early seems to rattle him a bit though. If I was a D-coordinator Id be OK with a 15 yard penalty early to get a real good clean hit up the middle on Brady.

EDIT: Id also agree that he's more focused on protecting himself from getting hit than he has been in past years.

Ray Lewis and Lardarius Webb are indeed out for the season according to Ravens coach John Harbaugh.

Yeah AFC is terribad now. Ravens were squeaking by as is, and should be decimated now.

Is there a way for me to say that I can't agree with a single post ITT since Sunday's game, without me sounding like a troll?

Not a single grounding call against Brady was born out of fear. One was clearly an effort to stop the clock at the end of the half. The others were certainly efforts to avoid sacks (and there was even another example that SHOULD have been flagged, but wasn't), but that's smart football, not fear. I recall one play where he ducked under a pass rusher, rolled right, and made a big play; if he was as consumed with fear as you guys suggest, he would have wilted like a flower in that spot.

So we ignore the previous 53 minutes??? And how do you ignore the fact that the offense contributed zero points in that same time span? Forget points, they barely moved the football at all that last 7 mins.

I can't think of a better example of "win as a team, lose as a team" as this game. Offense, defense, special teams, coaching, you name it, they all had a part in this one. They were all good, but none of them was good enough to win. If any one of them could have turned in a better performance, this one-point loss could have been a win.

But in this fan base, as long as the O puts up lots of yards (and doesn't blow a 4th down conversion attempt), and the punter doesn't get one blocked, and the place kicker doesn't miss any FG's, then every loss gets pinned on the D. I don't know how you guys expect to win games in the Arena Football Era when you only get into the end zone twice in 60 minutes, but it seems that you do.

Oh, and if I read one more post that complains that our DB's never turn around and look for the football (there was one of these somewhere ITT, and I had to endure another one on the Eagle Tribune's website), I'm gonna lose it. YOU try keeping up with an NFL WR when he's going full steam ahead, and you're looking over your shoulder.

We don't play in the NFL. But lucky for us we get to sometimes watch other NFL teams play and shockingly their DB's do turn for the ball on a regular basis.

Yeah the Seattle DB's all had it down.

lol. It's quicker to take the sack. Or to the throw at the feet of an eligible receiver. He's seeing monsters.

Taking a sack >> intentional grounding.

There's also plenty of plays you can point to where he's ducking early at the slightest signs of a hit coming. Dude clearly has happy feet right now. It's just what it is.

Clearly we have to get Bledsoe to give up making wine.

He might be a little happier than normal but cmon now hes still mother****ing Tom Brady. Let's not be spoiled. I dont think its fair to expect perfection.

I cant be the only one who is unhappy with Josh McDaniels play calling??

* late game play calling