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06-23-2016 , 11:14 PM
Nerlens + saric would be amazing.

Don't really care what we do at this point. Dunn is a pretty large upgrade at backup point guard and if he can play some off ball he fits in fine and should see quality minutes. If we can get Covington+ Noel for him ill be ecstatic
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06-23-2016 , 11:15 PM
Woj reported earlier that Rubio has been shopped all week. With the Dunn drafting it wouldn't be surprising if he was shipped at some point this year.
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06-24-2016 , 12:54 AM
Was SO excited when we made the pick. Figured we had a trade in hand. Now it looks like they had no plan.
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06-24-2016 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Was SO excited when we made the pick. Figured we had a trade in hand. Now it looks like they had no plan.
Lol same
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06-24-2016 , 06:54 AM
Trading Rubio would be bad imo unless the haul is really nice. Even if Dunn passes him in value at some point (which is a big if) he can't play all the pg minutes.
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06-24-2016 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Was SO excited when we made the pick. Figured we had a trade in hand. Now it looks like they had no plan.
I don't get this post. I mean you yourself said standing pat is fine - can't that be the plan?
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06-24-2016 , 12:05 PM
There is no way this team makes the playoffs this season with a starting rookie PG. Thibs knows this. I think there is little to no chance Rubio gets traded unless we pick up a quality veteran PG, and the chances of that happening are low.

We needed a good backup PG. We got destroyed by almost every team almost every time Rubio was not on the floor. On the surface, we at least got a solid backup for Rubio. If Dunn turns into something better than Rubio, we scored big. Either way, we took the consensus BPA.

I have no idea if the trade rumors that didnt happen were real or not. If Noel + Covington + the two late 1st round picks was real, the only reason I can think of for turning that down is because we dont have enough roster spots.

If we turned down Lavine & Dunn for Butler, we ****ed up. I think the Bulls probably shot that down.

The best thing about picking Dunn that no one else is talking about, assuming we dont trade Rubio, is that we have likely seen the last of Lavine at PG.

The Rubio trade rumors that Woj started likely came from Rubio's agent trying to stir the pot. I see little to no evidence elsewhere that anything is eminent.
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06-24-2016 , 12:10 PM
These are career, per game college numbers for some point guards. Can you spot the new Wolves #1 draft pick on this list?

Player A:

5.6 FG 12.6 FGA .446FG% .390 3p% .867FT% 4.3TRB 3.5AST 1.2STL 0.2 BLK 2.4TOV 18.6PTS

Player B:
5.2FG 10.9FGA .477 FG% .3373P% .712FT% 4.5TRB 4.7AST 1.2STL 0.4BLK 2.7TOV 14.9PTS

Player C:

3.1FG 6.6FGA .464FG% .354 3P% . 685FT% 2.4TRB 2.5AST 1.0STL 0.1BLK 2.5 TOV 8.3 PTS

Player D:

4.5FG 9.9FGA .450 FG% .354 3P% .693 FT% 5.1 TRB 5.8 AST 2.2 STL 0.4 BLK 3.3 TOV 12.8 PTS

Spoiler:
Player A: Lillard

Player B: Rose

Player C: Westbrook

Player D: Dunn


Dunn looks like damn good "do ****" kind of player.
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06-24-2016 , 12:12 PM
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Layden speaking with @PAOnTheMic calls Rubio a terrific player and speaking as though RR will stay.

— Jon Krawczynski (@APkrawczynski) June 24, 2016
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06-24-2016 , 12:25 PM
USA Today Draft Grade

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5. Minnesota Timberwolves

Pick: Kris Dunn, guard, Providence

Grade: A+

Analysis: There might not be a better fit than Dunn in Minnesota under first-year coach Tom Thibodeau. Dunn is a versatile, powerful combo guard who will mesh perfectly with Andrew Wiggins on the wing. He was a two-time Big East Player of the Year and was also the two-time Big East Defensive Player of the Year. His effort on defense no doubt caught Thibodeau’s eye.
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06-24-2016 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by willie24
I don't get this post. I mean you yourself said standing pat is fine - can't that be the plan?
Well i don't think it was. They clearly tried to trade Dunn for Butler and now I'm not sure what's gonna happen. Standing pat might be the fallback plan. Or something else might happen.
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06-24-2016 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
Noah seems way too banged up to be a decent contributor. He's beyond terrible on offense (all those orebs result in missed shots because he can't jump) and I think he's going to command way too much money for a guy we are hoping is a fraction of what he used to be on the defensive side. If he would come super cheap that's a different story but I'm thinking someone gives him 10mil.

For that money I'd rather have a guy like Marvin Williams
Remember a couple weeks ago when 10mil for Noah was way too much??!!
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06-24-2016 , 03:18 PM
I didn't know Dunn was so well regarded defensively, that's awesome.
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06-24-2016 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
Remember a couple weeks ago when 10mil for Noah was way too much??!!
It still is.
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06-24-2016 , 03:42 PM
I can talk myself into this. Backup PG was probably the biggest need on the team. Keeping Ricky healthy probably means limiting his minutes. And if Ricky does go down again, well, it's a good thing we drafted Dunn imo. If he's a shutdown defender like they say, that's filling a huge void too.
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06-24-2016 , 04:16 PM
It's probably just nonsense but Thibs said that Rubio and Dunn can play together. Defensively I can see it, and if offensively dunn is as improved a shooter as his numbers show, he could play off ball. We ran some duo pg in the past with Ridnour and Rubio and it will all hinge on dunn's shooting as to whether or not it's effective.

So, in the best case scenario where Thibs isn't blowing smoke for a potential trade, Dunn is good enough to play a little off ball next to rubio as well as run point guard next to lavine. maybe 5-10 mpg as a backup sg and another 10-15 as backup pg. he gets his minutes as a rookie and fills a hole at two big holes on the roster.

Average scenario is he is just a backup pg, plays adequately there as a rookie, filling a huge void for us from last year. If rubio gets banged up we're not as screwed as we once were and the deal is fine.

Worst case scenario...Dunn is a scrub not ready to NBA and we're no different than we were pre draft night, except dunn as a scrub is probably >> Tyus

idk, i think the pick was BPA(you can argue Chriss but it's close imo) and even if we stand pat it made us better. If we trade him as Woj is reporting for something down the road it could be a lot better. Woj only reports credible sources, so if he's saying Rubio has been shopped, more than likely one of the two pgs is going to be gone if they can find a deal.

It makes a lot of sense to trade with Philly, and they might easily have less leverage than us in a trade situation with Saric/Noel/Okafor/simmons/etc all on the team. They need something else and everyone kind of knows it. We could get a pretty good haul for dunn or rubio, we'll see.
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06-24-2016 , 04:23 PM
A+ post Posh
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06-24-2016 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cha59
These are career, per game college numbers for some point guards. Can you spot the new Wolves #1 draft pick on this list?
What were the ages for the other three?
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06-24-2016 , 10:53 PM
Dunn seems like an impressive kid.

Thibs doesn't have any charisma. Makes me miss Flip.
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06-24-2016 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Speel_Posher

Worst case scenario...Dunn is a scrub not ready to NBA and we're no different than we were pre draft night, except dunn as a scrub is probably >> Tyus
Worst case scenario is actually that all of the smoke about Thibs wanting to trade Rubio to replace him with Dunn is true and gets done preseason,with Dunn busting leaving us with no viable point guard on the team which ******s the development of all of the young guys.
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06-25-2016 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Well i don't think it was. They clearly tried to trade Dunn for Butler and now I'm not sure what's gonna happen. Standing pat might be the fallback plan. Or something else might happen.
I've seen it reported that they offered LaVine and the 5th for Butler but withdrew the offer when Dunn was available at 5.

Obviously that could be untrue entirely ,untrue about the Dunn part with wanting him to feel the team wants him or true in which case it is hard to imagine that it was done to have him back up Rubio or LaVine
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06-25-2016 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by andyhop
Worst case scenario is actually that all of the smoke about Thibs wanting to trade Rubio to replace him with Dunn is true and gets done preseason,with Dunn busting leaving us with no viable point guard on the team which ******s the development of all of the young guys.
I don't think it's very likely we go into the season with Dunn/Jones at point unless Dunn is super sick. Even then Tyus can't be a backup.
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06-27-2016 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bbones31
What were the ages for the other three?
Player A: Lillard - He turned 22 on 7/15 the year he was drafted, so he was basically the same age as Dunn (3/18).

Player B: Rose - He turned 20 on 10/4 the year he was drafted. He seems a lot older than 27 right now.

Player C: Westbrook - He turned 20 on 11/12 the year he was drafted

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Originally Posted by andyhop
Worst case scenario is actually that all of the smoke about Thibs wanting to trade Rubio to replace him with Dunn is true and gets done preseason,with Dunn busting leaving us with no viable point guard on the team which ******s the development of all of the young guys.
That's not going to happen. Thibs is no idiot. He's not going into the season with a rookie, T Jones and Lavine (gag, puke) as our only PGs. Unless we sign someone like Conley, which I think is very unlikely, I would be shocked if Rubio is traded this season.
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06-27-2016 , 11:47 AM
Just curious

Covington + Noel is way preferred over okafor right? I almost think Noel is a better fit than okafor straight up, ignoring character issues
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06-27-2016 , 02:26 PM
I wouldn't trade Dunn for just Okafor or just Noel personally. Okafor and Covington for just Dunn? I would do that.
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