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02-09-2015 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by StringerB
I like this thought in general, but I think it's weighted heavily towards playing on FD where the +/- seems to REALLY skew how you build a lineup.

Unfortunately (for me) I think most of the strategy talk in this thread is skewed towards FD.

Would you still feel the same about starting the goalie from the same team as your skaters if the +/- wasn't in effect?

I tend to pick the goalie independently of the skaters, and then move forward building what I think will be the highest scoring team (usually two team stacks). I also make sure I avoid skaters on the team facing my goalie (which usually isn't tough since I tend to think my goalie has a good chance to hold the other team to a low score - obviously this doesn't always go as planned).
I still like the strategy on DK. In fact, I've probably used it more on DK since you can still take four skaters and the goalie (whereas on FD you can only take three skaters and the goalie).

There's no set one way to do things or something that will always work. But I have found it useful at times.

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Originally Posted by dinostud18
I'm torn on trying to fade the Hawks tonight too. Luckily for me I play GPPs exclusively so I can fade them, not cash a thing, shrug my shoulders because GPPs are so LOL some days, and move on to tomorrow.

Hawks ownership rates will be insane, especially in cash. It's a tough call.
If you are very confident the Blackhawks will be extremely highly owned, one thing to consider would be using the late swap.

Say you are on the Blue Jackets or something in the early game. Go Blue Jackets/Blackhawks. You will have a lot more information by the time the Blackhawks game starts. If the Blue Jackets already scored a bunch of goals, stick with the Blackhawks. If you're getting killed, consider switching to the Sharks, Flames, or Coyotes. Or third/fourth line Blackhawks. Switching your goalie to Mike Smith could be especially powerful, because any time he puts up a shutout it means all your opponents with Blackhawks got zero goals at the same time. Realize that this strategy will very rarely work, but very rarely is better than never, and you are never going to win if you are near the bottom of the standings with a bunch of Blackhawks top line guys on your team when that game starts.

Actually I might try something like that myself tonight, I should be near a computer.
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02-09-2015 , 01:20 PM
I highly suggest not fading the Blackhawks.

Edit: unless you pick up some of my games - then fade away
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02-09-2015 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SA16
I highly suggest not fading the Blackhawks.

Edit: unless you pick up some of my games - then fade away
This was kind of the point of my original discussion post...

So if you don't fade them, you are back to the game being decided by the 2-3 Non-Blackhawks you rostered.

C'MON Kopitar! Hat trick time!
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02-09-2015 , 01:39 PM
I mean fading them is just an excuse for making a lesser lineup and hoping to get lucky. In GPP sure but in cash it's ridiculous
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02-09-2015 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SA16
I mean fading them is just an excuse for making a lesser lineup and hoping to get lucky. In GPP sure but in cash it's ridiculous
I agree. Just to finish out this thought for me though, do you expect your lineups to overcome your opponents based on the strength of the few Non-Blackhawks you have? Or maybe you'll pick the correct Hawks while they pick the one big stud forward (Sharp/Kane) that only scores a point.

(I'm not being a wise ass - I'm really asking - I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around cash games today).

Maybe I'm not confident enough in my own ability to have the entire match come down to 2-3 players.
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02-09-2015 , 01:55 PM
Not sure why this is so confusing

If you load up on Blackhawks and they do well - as is to be expected - there are two outcomes:

A) your opponents don't take Blackhawks and you have an advantage

B) your opponents take Blackhawks and you're playing 5v5 or 6v6.
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02-09-2015 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nutshot2
Not sure why this is so confusing

If you load up on Blackhawks and they do well - as is to be expected - there are two outcomes:

A) your opponents don't take Blackhawks and you have an advantage

B) your opponents take Blackhawks and you're playing 5v5 or 6v6.
DK you are playing 2v2... maybe 3v3.

I think I like the limiting aspect of FD in a case like tonights games.

But overall I like the freedom of DK roster building.
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02-09-2015 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nutshot2
Not sure why this is so confusing

If you load up on Blackhawks and they do well - as is to be expected - there are two outcomes:

A) your opponents don't take Blackhawks and you have an advantage

B) your opponents take Blackhawks and you're playing 5v5 or 6v6.
This
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02-09-2015 , 02:46 PM
Hey IK, I feel bad you've been getting beat down so much lately so I'm gonna give you some advice for the last few games:

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02-09-2015 , 03:00 PM
re: Blackhawks tonight

I think the, "how many players from Team X" line of thinking is a bad way to head into a slate. Feels like there have been a lot of similar short slates this year, one huge favorite and several closer games, and rarely has it been correct to completely load up on the favorite.

I think the huge disparity in Vegas lines causes artificial inflation of the value of the heavily favored team's skaters. Obviously you want Chicago skaters and Kane and Sharp are elite options tonight, but how does Saad or Hossa's expected output compare to Kopitar's or Gaborik's , for example?

I don't think you should be starting your lineup by immediately putting in Kane/Sharp/Hossa/Saad because you've decided that you need 4 Blackhawks. This is something I've been guilty of, even on large slates sometimes, and I think it's a fairly large leak.
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02-09-2015 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cjkalt
Hey IK, I feel bad you've been getting beat down so much lately so I'm gonna give you some advice for the last few games:

What are you talking about? My record has been incredible this week, against Nutshot and everyone else I've played.
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02-09-2015 , 06:09 PM
How was the mansion CJ?
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02-09-2015 , 07:06 PM
DK really needs to raise their prizepools for GPP if they fill 1 hour before faceoff
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02-09-2015 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by njpokerplayer24
DK really needs to raise their prizepools for GPP if they fill 1 hour before faceoff
Yeah they are pretty dumb, they tried to raise the guarantees first day after the all star break and failed, but it was terrible timing to try that as a couple people I know hadn't even realized that hockey had started back up.

I know if I decide to play it's usually not until after 6pm and I only want to play the big gpps.
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02-09-2015 , 08:26 PM
Match 29:

IlluminatedK (14-14) vs. Nutshot2 (14-14)

https://www.fanduel.com/contest/1044...eup/133734198/
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02-09-2015 , 08:30 PM
sometimes you just gotta play dubnyk
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02-09-2015 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Societal Jester
How was the mansion CJ?
Amazing, was one of the best parties I've ever been a part of, props to Fanduel for running such a top end party/experience
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02-09-2015 , 11:51 PM
lol hawks
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02-09-2015 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cjkalt
Amazing, was one of the best parties I've ever been a part of, props to Fanduel for running such a top end party/experience
Nice. Would be sick to win a trip like that one of these days
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02-10-2015 , 12:01 AM
another close one.

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02-10-2015 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by IlluminatedK
another close one.

Since the h2h records will be negligible, you should tally up the total point differential over the course of the 30 contests so we will have a better idea of who is the better nhl dfs'er.
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02-10-2015 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoHead
Since the h2h records will be negligible, you should tally up the total point differential over the course of the 30 contests so we will have a better idea of who is the better nhl dfs'er.
absolutely will do.
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02-10-2015 , 12:28 AM
How was that not a goal?
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02-10-2015 , 01:04 AM
http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/lines how reliable is this site?
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02-10-2015 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by nicknick315
http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/lines how reliable is this site?
Just a reference, not a gaurantee. When looking at line combos anyways. Sometimes you never know what the coach is going to do in the game with lines.
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