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09-18-2023 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cokeboy99
According to that, Stevenson had a value of 17, with Pittman being an 8. Would indicate the trade favored me.
I really like you side, for sure. I think you crushed. Pittman is solid but Stevenson is a borderline RB1 that gets volume.

This guy also pushes weekly trade charts. He’s had a big prescence on Reddit for a while. His trade chart is also heavily in your favor.



I think the DLF dynasty trade analyzer is a pretty good gauge, but that requires a $50 annual sub. They might have a free trial for you to test it, but I can’t remember. I think their trade analyzer is way sharper than KTC. DLF uses actually adp data from MFL, but it does have a month lag. I think they also factor in site consensus ranks.

https://dynastyleaguefootball.com/
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09-18-2023 , 11:15 PM
I've found Justin Boone's trade value chart to be pretty solid (especially compared to the CBS one, which has been particularly bad in prior seasons at least).

https://www.thescore.com/news/2712935

Fantasy Pros has one as well that isn't bad iirc.

https://www.fantasypros.com/2023/09/...t-week-2-2023/


No one will have Pittman for Stevenson as being anything other than a huge win for you.
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09-18-2023 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheatsauce
I've found Justin Boone's trade value chart to be pretty solid (especially compared to the CBS one, which has been particularly bad in prior seasons at least).

https://www.thescore.com/news/2712935

Fantasy Pros has one as well that isn't bad iirc.

https://www.fantasypros.com/2023/09/...t-week-2-2023/

No one will have Pittman for Stevenson as being anything other than a huge win for you.
Thanks. I was pretty sure this was a win. It's nice to have resources for future reference, too.
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09-19-2023 , 06:11 AM
Brutal Monday to lose Nick Chubb to such a brutal injury on a dirty play. Fantasy wise it sucks cause I drafted him in alot of spots. At the same time alot of other managers are taking hits as well for Dobbins, Saquon and with Ekelar I was reading there is no timeline for his return, so I'm not sure how that will play out.


Just wondering if anyone is doing any mid-season best ball drafts? There are a few mid round RBs that I feel are valued close together, but it isn't super clear for me how to value them.

James Cook - got lots of rushing attempts and receptions last game. RB1 of a top level offense. He gets lots of volume, but then loses red zone work to Harris and Murray.

James Conner - high volume guy who doesn't lose touches to anyone else. Looks like the Cardinals are here to battle this season and that tanking narrative that came up in the preseason was just speculation.

Rachaad White - another high volume guy who catches passes as well. I was hearing the CBS guys say to sell high on him after his big week 2 game. I'm not too sure why he gets bashed on with speculation of Sean Tucker taking over.

David Montgomery - the main early down back who gets those red zone touches as well. Not too threatened by Gibbs taking over that early down work. I think Monty's role is pretty secure.

Alvin Kamara - He is coming back soon and the Saints really like to punch it in the endzone using their RBs. Tony Jones had 2 TDs today. However, Kamara only had 4TDs last year and Taysom Hill got 9 carries today, so I just wonder if he will lose valuable touches again when he returns.

Brian Robinson - had the biggest game of his career in week 2. Clearly has the lions share of work in the WAS offense, and he is catching passes more this year. Seen him getting drafted much earlier following yesterday's game.

Miles Sanders - seems to be the lead back in CAR, but the offense doesn't seem great and he didn't do much during MNF. He had the highest ADP of all these RBs mentioned, leading up to the season. I did fade him in almost every draft though.

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09-19-2023 , 07:13 AM
I would rate them

1. Conner
2. Monty
3. Robinson
4. Sanders
5. Cook
6. White
7. Kamara
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09-19-2023 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
I would rate them
4. Sanders
5. Cook
Seems all the trade charts says Sanders over Cook by a wide margin but my eyes would never allow me to take Sanders
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09-19-2023 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Browns Steelers tonight should be eye opening for fantasy I'd think. Kind of excited for that one.
Well we found out!

Watson WASHED
Najee WASHED
Chubb career over?
Every receiver on the Browns WR except Cooper: unstartable borderline unrosterable
Muth: Finished with this OC

What carnage!
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09-19-2023 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by boscoboy
Seems all the trade charts says Sanders over Cook by a wide margin but my eyes would never allow me to take Sanders
Sanders deserves to be at the bottom of that list. He's a complete JAG on one of the worst offenses in the league while splitting work with Chuba. There is basically no upside here.

Conner
Rachaad
BRob
Monty
Kamara
Cook
Sanders

is probably how I rate it today. But I'm fine with rostering and starting any of the top 6 and think they're all pretty close. Variance will be the deciding factor. **** Miles Sanders.
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09-19-2023 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
I would rate them

1. Conner
2. Monty
3. Robinson
4. Sanders
5. Cook
6. White
7. Kamara
Cook in 5th is sleeping imo

Like I can get having Connor and Robinson over him but not Monty, who's out a few weeks and is getting zero tgts, and Sanders who has just never been that great and is on a much worse offense now
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09-19-2023 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Sanders deserves to be at the bottom of that list. He's a complete JAG on one of the worst offenses in the league while splitting work with Chuba. There is basically no upside here.

Conner
Rachaad
BRob
Monty
Kamara
Cook
Sanders

is probably how I rate it today. But I'm fine with rostering and starting any of the top 6 and think they're all pretty close. Variance will be the deciding factor. **** Miles Sanders.
Wow guess i'm the only one hyped on Cook's usage
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09-19-2023 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Well we found out!

Watson WASHED
Najee WASHED
Chubb career over?
Every receiver on the Browns WR except Cooper: unstartable borderline unrosterable
Muth: Finished with this OC

What carnage!
Maybe I have my dynasty biased glasses on due to having a few shares, but I'm still bullish on Deshaun. He's definitely doing some dumb **** out there, but I see flashes in some of the throws he was making to the sidelines and into tight windows last night. The loss of Chubb should mean even more work for Deshaun. I still think he's trying to find his rhythm, and I think part of it is on his coaches, who are likely just not that good of coaches. Stefanski hasn't really done anything to make me think otherwise. There will be a new coaching staff next year if this team misses the playoffs.

All other points, well said haha. RIP Chubb, I feel bad for the guy. He is very easy to cheer for.
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09-19-2023 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by J.E.C
Wow guess i'm the only one hyped on Cook's usage
Yeah, maybe Monty should be 6th on this list with Kamara at 4 and Cook at 5, but it's just tough for me to get excited about a guy who has to score TDs outside of the 20. TDs are king in fantasy, which is why Monty gets the bump for me. Monty did have a TD catch that was called back on Sunday (he actually punched in the running TD a few plays later). But that would have been 2 targets, with one in the red zone. As long as he can get 2-3 targets per game + 15-20 rushes, I think it's tough to ignore his TD upside. Cook has 3 career TDs on 147 touches.

I expect Kamara to have a similar role to Cook when Kamara returns, with more TD upside. But I do think it's probably likely Kamara loses red zone work to Jamaal/Taysom/Kendre. However, I don't think Cook is nearly as electric as Kamara.

It's all close.

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09-19-2023 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Maybe I have my dynasty biased glasses on due to having a few shares, but I'm still bullish on Deshaun.
10 cent head? Dude probably should've been ejected for pushing an official
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09-19-2023 , 09:53 AM
Yeh very fair point
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09-19-2023 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by J.E.C
Wow guess i'm the only one hyped on Cook's usage
Nope, if the dude has 65 catches we can easily forgive him for *only* having 4-5 TDs.

Folks saying he doesn't get goal line carries are conveniently leaving out the fact that if he did he would've be a top 10 pick and not a 4-6th rounder. He was RB17 in my draft and imagine the laugh you would have if the Harris or Pierce owner offered you a trade.
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09-19-2023 , 10:18 AM
I mean yeah, I'd also easily have him ahead of Harris or Pierce, but that wasn't part of the question.

4 catches for Cook, using his current yard average, is roughly the equivalent of scoring 1 TD for fantasy. I guess you can argue his passing involvement is more sticky week to week, but I think that also means he has less weekly upside. He's unlikely to go out there and score 3 TDs in a game, whereas there are guys on that list that can do that due to the expected volume and goal line work.

How do you rank the above list?
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09-19-2023 , 11:31 AM
More on Stefanski’s great coaching abilities. My Panthers get a shout out too lol.

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09-19-2023 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Sanders deserves to be at the bottom of that list. He's a complete JAG on one of the worst offenses in the league while splitting work with Chuba. There is basically no upside here.

Conner
Rachaad
BRob
Monty
Kamara
Cook
Sanders

is probably how I rate it today. But I'm fine with rostering and starting any of the top 6 and think they're all pretty close. Variance will be the deciding factor. **** Miles Sanders.
Brob, Cook, White, Conner, Kamara, Monty (would be higher wo injury), Sanders for me. Brob looks spry to me this year as opposed to last year and i think the redskins love him. I buy the Cook volume and think he will get more goal line later in year. White great volume, but does not pass eye test IMO. And teams like the Cards put guys like Conner on IR for hangnails in the second half of season (if they continue current plan i would rate higher)
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09-19-2023 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by J.E.C
Wow guess i'm the only one hyped on Cook's usage
He's my RB1 on 2 teams. I have Montgomery as RB2 in one of those. He's seeing great volume and RZ work.

He and Montgomery look pretty good. I'd have them in the top 4 of that list, and I'm not confident Conner is going to get a lot of high-value opps when AZ plays good teams. It's a shame DM went down vs Seattle.

I completely missed on Brian R. What a value he may turn out to be.
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09-19-2023 , 01:34 PM
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I completely missed on Brian R. What a value he may turn out to be.
Was a fair bit of pre season hype over Gibson's potential usage, so it's somewhat understandable that he was overlooked. I'm not sure I have any redraft pieces, only dynasty
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09-19-2023 , 04:35 PM
I receive: D. Waller
I send: Jerome Ford

Full PPR


Whadya think?
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09-19-2023 , 04:36 PM
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I receive: D. Waller
I send: Jerome Ford

PPR


Whadya think?

Browns hosting Hunt for a visit
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09-19-2023 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad22
I receive: D. Waller
I send: Jerome Ford

Full PPR


Whadya think?
If this was week 14 heading into playoffs, im in for the lineup optimization. This early in season, i would want the Jerome Ford gamble at a position that is getting decimated by injury
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09-19-2023 , 05:13 PM
Who is your current TE? Waiver wire options?
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09-19-2023 , 05:24 PM
In my silly family league I roster Tua/Lawrence, probably the weaker starting QBs in the league. Lot of options on the wire. I looked at Lawrence has a brutal schedule, it's kind of insane.

I can get Love, Anthony Richardson, Cousins (see his playoff schedule???)

In that trio any favorites? I'm considering schedules. AR has two domes in the playoffs, but Pits week 15. I don't know what to make of Love yet, but his schedule all year is easy.
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