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(1) The Juwan Johnson owner very likely drafted Juwan because he punted TE in the draft; therefore, I don't think that offering him Hunter Henry is going to get a trade done (even if Henry is looking like one of the few late round TEs that could pay off in 2023). You'll probably have to offer Andrews (and even then, owner's injury-risk-aversion might make Andrews a hard no)...in which case, you should seek a better WR than Pittman. Just speculating of course.

(2) Moss for Nacua would be a hard no for me...though the Taylor/Kupp timelines are similar and make it interesting. Let's say both Taylor + Kupp return healthy in week 5 -- Nacua is likely to have a lot more ROS value than Moss in that scenario.

Thanks for the feedback PocketInfinities.

1) Maybe I'm over estimating the value Hunter Henry has based on hearing good things about him on fantasy football shows and that he has scored TDs in two straight weeks. His value is probably as a low end TE1 and I would normally think that Pittman's value is too high to give him up for Henry. Only way that wouldn't be the case is if he found Pittman expendable because of his strength at TE. But ya, I could see this not being likely.

I could be open to trading Andrews, but I'd probably want to be more certain I have a quality replacement so I'm not scrambling to keep filling my TE spot. Two good games from Henry is a good sign, but it isn't certainty.

2) I'd agree that Nacua would maintain more of his value when Kupp returns, while Moss's would mostly go away. But there is the case that Taylor gets traded and Moss maintains that starter role for the whole season. 18 carries and 4 catches was pretty sweet production to get and pretty much won my matchup today, so maybe that is something I can just use going forward.

I think it's an overpay but a fair one. Week 2 the draft is still fresh and people still value so much on where their players were drafted but that is a hard offer to turn down for the Kelce owner.

No required TE start?

Yeah, I pulled the trigger on both but got reasonably outbid. Getting both feels awesome!


Supposed to be Van Jefferson and Higbee leading the way. Atwell and Puka just step in and dominate and leave the former guys mentioned in the dust. Is this a McVay thing, or does Stafford just hook onto certain players and make it happen?


Fun with numbers!
Projected 16 game stats (let's say he misses 1 game):

Puka - 200-2128, 280 targets

Random thoughts / questions:


-Kyle Pitts - Wtf do you even say?

-Garrett Wilson - Do I try to trade immediately and get some value back if I can, or do we think the next Jets QB signed will save his fantasy season?

-If there is a CAR receiver to own this yr., which one is it?

-GB - similar question - Watson, Reed or Doubs, who finishes with the best season - Would you try to acquire any in a trade right now before the price goes up?

Credit where credit is due - sixfour called Nacua before the Rams first game

You may be screwed on Pitts & Wilson - nobody is buying them off you anywhere near draft day values so selling now seems like a lose or lose more situation for you.

My bad - it’s 2RB/3WR/1TE/1Flx...been punting TE on almost every roster, easy to forget it’s required sometimes

5 south: thanks - I appreciate your thoughts!

Trading away ridley and Devonta for Kelce seems pretty bad.

Pitts is probably droppable, depending on league size and what’s available. I’d rather have all high snap count rookie TEs over him, plus guys like Hunter Henry, Juwan, Ertz, Hurst, etc.

I expect Pitts to have a couple boom games, but you won’t know when they will come, and he’s going to be scoring low to mid single digits in all the others.

Wilson is a hold.

Probably no Car receiver to own. I’d rank them Mingo > Thielen > Chark, but I wouldn’t be excited to start any right now. Mingo is at least the upside rookie who could come on at the end of the year. Don’t think any of the others will matter if those 3 are playing.

Watson > Reed > Doubs. I might throw a low ball offer for Watson. Reed is going to be expensive after yesterday. Doubs is JAG and I’m not interested.

It does make a huge difference to Kelce's positional value if he's a fixed TE or just a generic receiver, comparing to TE12 or WR/TE36 when looking from a VBD perspective is kind of important

I just wish I had as good a hitrate on RB's as I do on WR's in rookie drafts, Pierce looks like regressing like mad and Charbonnet's done nowt yet, but I'm pretty happy with my Olave/Flowers/Nacua returns so far. I'm just a sucker for those who I see described as running a good route tree, I may never get a true top 3-5 receiver but I can live with what I've been getting of late

Well Chase DID brick again, certainly relative to ADP. That's fun! He certainly cost me a W in dynasty.

Gibbs probably unstartable in standard. PPR looks like he'll be just fine

Fields bricked again! The talk of him not even being a starting QB inside a few years seems legit to me. He looks awful.

The RB splits in Atlanta are still super funny. Look at the ypc difference lol. But hey they're 2-0!

Kelley is a JAG afterall

The Jags game was a shock I thought. Etienne cost me my week, and the WR use was very random. That Ridley brick was shocking.

Ya grabbed Collins and feel like he may absolutely save my season. Wasn't able to get Puka shares.

Suddenly this 1QB ppr redraft team of mine might BE something.

Josh Allen / Murray
Diggs / Cooper/ Collins / trash
Jacobs (ehhhh) / Brian Robinson / Kamara / trash
Engram / Hunter Henry


The Collins, Puka, Hunter Henry, Tutu, Bourne (targerts?), Robert Woods, Ertz etc... waiver bunch are looking like they're going to bail out a lot of teams.


Reed, Reynolds, Tank Dell, Hayden Hurst are the next crop to probably do the same?

Things I'm talkin bout:


Can you even put Pitts in your lineup?

Dalton Schultz is such a drop, and should have taken the deal Dallas offered back when they did

You guys calling to fade Kittle were right. So glad I got no shares

The "experts" who said Kellen Moore would make TE's for the Chargers do anything were pretty mistaken, so far

DK and Waddle buy lows?

Kyren Williams, Brian Robinson, Mostert, James Conner, James Cook....all league winners?

Tank Bigsby hype was so lol

Vikings are going to draft a RB for SURE. Mattison looks aweful

Dalvin Cook can't be started anymore

Mixon's done too. In dynasty if you're the one still holding that hot potato, good luck

Nice bullet points summing up the week!

Kwillaims,BRob, Cook do look like potential league winners..Conner looks good, but the tank is coming, and no way mostert stays healthy all year

This is the most frustrating part about Pitts.



Unfortunately, it’s just tough to get there when he’s already, at best, third behind Bijan and London. Then you have Hollins and Jonnu getting targets, while Allgeier is still getting 15 touches too.

And while Ridder threw it 32x, he also had 10 rushes himself.

I mean, the real value of guys like this is you should be STACKED at WR/TE or QB if you are starting any of them.

I sorta disagree! Where I started them all my starting RB or flex guys were already hurt, lol. It's been a bloodbath already. But for some sure, the zero RB thing may have worked super well. Granted if you got some kind of Chase/QB/Waddle setup you're 0-2 right now most likely lol

I'd love love love to see back testing from the last 3 seasons for PPR on TE's for route involvement relative to their final scores. I mean it stands to reason you can't score if you don't run routes. I just wonder if certain schemes have them out there running useless routes (see Pitts). Musgrave ran a lot of routes for 3 targets yesterday.

Ferguson in Dallas is going to be interesting. They like Schoonmaker a lot. 2nd round pedigree is nothing to sneer at. I haven't seen the 2023 breakdowns yet, but 2022 for example Dallas ran 12 personnel like a third of the time on first down. Gallup/Tolbert/Cooks is what is is. I have no idea what the Texas Coast offence looks like yet, I've not been able to enjoy a full game. But it's very obviously much shorter passes (so less DAK INTs) which is showing up on Lamb, Pollard and TE targets. Could be there's enough targets for both TE's.

I think Cooks and Gallup are gonna both be drops. Cooks is a hold for now. I'd love to see Jerry go get a really sure handed route runner. I think that might be what's between them and a SB appearance.

Yeah, Cooks and Gallup are not the answer. They probably should have kept Amari. Speaking of Amari, **** the reporting that said he was unlikely to play right before kickoff yesterday. I switched to Zay Jones and got his goose egg, and now it sounds like Amari is going to go. I need to fade 24 from Chubb, and I'd feel a lot better about that if I had Amari in the lineup going too.

Jones was unlucky - if a couple of balls were thrown a yard shorter he scores twice

He was. 6 targets, and I saw both end zone catches where he was just out. Ridley had one too. Just annoying variance. Tough game all around for the Jags. The KC defense looks pretty good after the first 2 weeks.