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What are some realistically achievable winrates for 2,5,10, 25 nl on pokerstars? Also what shou What are some realistically achievable winrates for 2,5,10, 25 nl on pokerstars? Also what shou

08-12-2015 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Babarberousse
Your question is way too vague, the average poker player is a losing player so...
But if you get half of those theoretical winrates I mentioned, you are certainly a big crusher at these stakes.
Ok yeh that's pretty much the answer I was looking for so 10nl 10bb/100 is a big crusher. I just wanted something to gauge things on.

These are my stats for nl5 and nl10 combined, my winrates from CO and BTN seem messed up.


Last edited by Eu.Era; 08-12-2015 at 10:12 AM.
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08-12-2015 , 10:49 AM
@tr4ce , it appears your blue line game is stronger than your red line one , which means you are doing something right with your made hands aka better call frequencies or stack off frequencies. do you fold a lot even at 25nl? how much do you bluffcatch? etc

Its really a pain to overmodify a stat because position comes into play , cbet frequencies will be different ep vs btn compared to btn vs bb , when you start to modify a stat to find its true value it just never ends , i personally made a cbet stat for 3-bet pots and 2-bet pots and stopped there , it sounds good though to separate multiway and single pots.
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08-12-2015 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Summoner500
@tr4ce , it appears your blue line game is stronger than your red line one , which means you are doing something right with your made hands aka better call frequencies or stack off frequencies. do you fold a lot even at 25nl? how much do you bluffcatch? etc

Its really a pain to overmodify a stat because position comes into play , cbet frequencies will be different ep vs btn compared to btn vs bb , when you start to modify a stat to find its true value it just never ends , i personally made a cbet stat for 3-bet pots and 2-bet pots and stopped there , it sounds good though to separate multiway and single pots.
I think that will pretty much always be the case at these stakes, your folding an awful lot to action (because bluff frequencies are so low).
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08-12-2015 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Summoner500
@tr4ce , it appears your blue line game is stronger than your red line one , which means you are doing something right with your made hands aka better call frequencies or stack off frequencies. do you fold a lot even at 25nl? how much do you bluffcatch? etc
Regs really arent bluffing enough and people dont fold often. Red line could be better but only thing that matters is the green line. I actually bluffcatch a lot I feel like. But I try to not do it because of balance, but based on opponents river aggression. There are a lot of regs who just dont bluff ever in many spots and you just have to find the fold button even with strong hands sometimes. My own strong hands get too much value in nl25 when people just don´t fold river causing a high blue line.

I also check behind or check-call a lot of spots where many other would bet, because I think checking has higher EV.

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Originally Posted by Summoner500
Its really a pain to overmodify a stat because position comes into play , cbet frequencies will be different ep vs btn compared to btn vs bb , when you start to modify a stat to find its true value it just never ends , i personally made a cbet stat for 3-bet pots and 2-bet pots and stopped there , it sounds good though to separate multiway and single pots.
Yeah, you don`t have to divide it so much but it´s nice to have the option to check the pop up with everything when needed. But its important to have those other stats that I mentioned to give you an idea how polarised/merged their cbet range is and how(and if) they defend their checking range as preflop agressor. Two people with 60% cbet can have very different cbet ranges depending on other stats.

Last edited by Tr4ce; 08-12-2015 at 02:01 PM.
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08-12-2015 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tr4ce
Regs really arent bluffing enough and people dont fold often. Red line could be better but only thing that matters is the green line. I actually bluffcatch a lot I feel like. But I try to not do it because of balance, but based on opponents river aggression.

do you use a stat to find river aggression or notes? , what are you doing without enough sample? , do you have some sort of default plan?


oh man i remember when i was a hud maniac , i created a ton of custom notes , stats , reports ( i still wait for the pokertracker store to sell them) , now you are telling me that it wasnt enough , the process to modify stats is really a painfull and tilting one.

Anyway your advice sounds really good , i think it actually improved me , gotta work more out of the table i guess , i think im pretty good preflop , i had a crazy winrate at 10nl at some point with very successfull 3-bets and steals and flat red line but i have some serious leaks postflop i think especially bluffcatching and big pots are my biggest weaknesses.
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08-12-2015 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Summoner500
do you use a stat to find river aggression or notes? , what are you doing without enough sample? , do you have some sort of default plan?


oh man i remember when i was a hud maniac , i created a ton of custom notes , stats , reports ( i still wait for the pokertracker store to sell them) , now you are telling me that it wasnt enough , the process to modify stats is really a painfull and tilting one.

Anyway your advice sounds really good , i think it actually improved me , gotta work more out of the table i guess , i think im pretty good preflop , i had a crazy winrate at 10nl at some point with very successfull 3-bets and steals and flat red line but i have some serious leaks postflop i think especially bluffcatching and big pots are my biggest weaknesses.
http://propokerstats.com/

If you are looking for stats.
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08-13-2015 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Eu.Era
http://propokerstats.com/

If you are looking for stats.

hm , interesting they indeed have all the stats.
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08-26-2015 , 12:04 PM
I dont know what you guys speak about,but you either got ton of run good,or you do something totally different from 99% of player pool
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08-26-2015 , 07:00 PM
I'm winning at 35bb/100 this week.

But I don't play on Stars.
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