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Originally Posted by YifeLife
So I️ understand the basics of gto where you have to a balanced range so your opponent can not exploit you , assuming you’re playing a competent opponent who doesn’t have any leaks which you should be exploiting.
My question is how would you opponent know your range is balanced . For example I’m a casino playing against a full ring table for 8 hours and let’s assume they’re all good / great players . How does balancing your ranges work if you won’t have a long history with these players for all different kinds of scenarios and also if most of the time you’re not showing your hand if you’re bluffing . Should you be showing your hand occasionally even if it gives away information?
For example , you check raise the flop on a flush draw representing trips or two pair . Your opponent folds and you muck. How is this definitely balancing your range if your opponent doesn’t know whether you had it or not .
I️ could see where it works for pros because they’re televised often , but for the average casino player how is this benefitial? Does it mainly help with people who you’ve had a long history with ?
Mate, you're confusing the theory between exploitative and GTO.
When we exploit we consider what we are representing. We consider how the opponent will perceive us and then we make a play which will make us the most money.
A 100% GTO player wont care what they are representing. They do think about the cards a GTO opponent would think that they hold, but only so that they can calculate an equilibrium strategy. They wont consider what it looks like they currently hold.
- To exploit we use our
perceived range. What it looks like we hold. The cards that we are representing.
- To calculate a GTO play we use our
actual range. What we, a GTO player, could actually hold.
It is very confusing, but my simple advice to you is this... Forget about GTO man! You are speaking about the cards that you are representing and this is what is called "Level Three" of exploitative theory and it's pretty advanced. This is the natural way to play poker. It's easy, it leads to GTO anyway, and it makes you the most money.
GTO players confuse
literally everything for no gain to anyone.
- They say GTO is the perfect defensive strategy, but the truth is that it just makes less money. Arty says when you use GTO you you will make the most off all your bluffs and all your strength, but this is just him admitting that he doesn't try to maximise the profit from the hand that he currently holds. He is just confusing things by adding to his deliberations the consideration of all the hands that he doesn't
actually hold. His actual range. There is absolutely
no need for you to think about how much you will make from your bluffs when you currently hold strength. The bluffs will look after themselves when you hold the bluffs. You don't need to consider your actual range. Just think about how to make the most with your current hand and you will rinse them... It is worth mentioning that you don't
need to consider your actual range, but, there is a time an exploitative player will use it. We consider the cards we could actually hold to concoct any
complete strategies, such as, "I'm going to raise more* against him" *more of my actual range. And so, your actual range isn't bad, it's just being misused by GTO players.
- If you use the
unnatural, and never optimal GTO, you will mess with your own mind too...
...In your mind you already know that GTO isn't a strategy you will ever want to use. So if you come to trust in GTO plays, your mind will hold multiple conflicting views and you will experience cognitive dissonance. If you fully understand all exploitative logic this
trust we place in GTO can be avoided and so you are free to learn it. At this point it could be deemed a small benefit to learning GTO, but at this point, you will also know how to reach GTO without considering your actual range. Well, you will be able to see the place where the perceived range meets the actual range.
...The mind thing gets worse, notice how close those two above ranges really are: the cards that the opponent thinks we hold and the cards we actually hold. They are almost exactly the same, they could sometimes be the same, and so if you learn to consider your actual range in detail you are going to find it very difficult to separate it from your perceived range.
Last edited by Yadoula8; 12-28-2017 at 08:24 AM.