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Originally Posted by rjr777
No one can replicate this magical force of “gravity” yet everyone parrots it as fact.
Actually, gravity can be replicated using technology that dates back to the 1800s.
https://sciencedemonstrations.fas.ha...ish-experiment
You can literally do this experiment yourself. And this has been done repeatedly. And this isn't the only experiment. This was the first time it was done and works well because it's so basic and requires so little.
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for so many mathematical minds I find it funny that everyone in here just accepts what they are told without actually being able to prove movement or curvature or replicate gravity.
It's interesting that you keep repeating this. People have proven this and seen proofs of it.
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I don’t believe anything... I’m saying the facts don’t support the current model.
It's false that you don't believe anything. You clearly do, because you keep asserting things you believe. You believe that the earth is not round, for example.
As far as "facts" are concerned, this is where we would come to some significant disagreements. It's hard to know what you think a "fact" is because... well... you really haven't even tried to address them in any way.
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Horizons should not rise to eye level.
They don't. This has been explained.
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The North Star Polaris shouldn’t be in the same position for thousands of years if were spinning around the sun and traveling through “infinite” space.
It's far from clear what this objection even means. Do you mean that you think that the north star has literally in the exact same position in the sky? Because it actually forms a little circle if you watch it over time, which would make tons of sense if the stars were relatively stationary and we're spinning around.
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The stars should have changed by now but they don’t.
What do you mean by "changed"?
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Literally everything my perception tells me is that it’s flat and motionless.
This is true. Your perception probably tells you lots of things that aren't entirely accurate. If you've ever been in a tall building, you might be convinced that you're standing still even if you're actually swaying from side to side by several inches.
So here's the fundamental question: Are your senses the ultimate arbiter of truth? Does "I perceive that X" mean that X is absolutely and undeniably true? If not, then what allows you to step outside of your experience of X to come to whatever the truth is?
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Physics says water seeks and maintain level yet you have to account for 70% of earth being covered in level water but forming a sphere shape.
The water seeks and maintains "level" under conditions that include things like other forces, which includes gravity and air pressure and a lot of other things.
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There’s a lot of holes in the “official model” you need to fight through the brainwashing that we have all been through since an early age. It’s nit easy to do.
The "holes" you've presented are holes in your knowledge. You've yet to meaningfully address anything.
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I can explain the flat earth explanation for most of these things but I don’t have all the answers.
You haven't actually done this. Among other things, you've only offered speculations and not proofs. Even the minimal explanations you've offered are easily rebutted.