The bible, the koran and life experiences of those that believe. Millions of what people deem miracles everyday. Prayers being answered.

Please read this part - I do not believe in the validity of ANY of these, NONE. In fact, I think it's very likely they are all ridiculous. However, they are evidence and it is possible that there is a God and it is possible that the Bible is the book of God.

That's all I'm saying. It's possible and there is no "I know" when it comes to this argument.

Do you guys REALLY disagree with that?

I believe number 7 is lucky, millions believe in that as well, I`ve seen number 7 win many times , is any of this evidence for number 7 to be lucky? I pray to number 7 to win and I do win sometimes! must be true..

They are not evidence..

My good lord. Is it that difficult to just read my post. I told you, I don't believe in any of the evidence I talked about so obviously I'm not going to argue it's validity.

I've made my point very clear. It's not hard to understand. If you have a comment about the point I'm making, I'll respond.

Evidence: A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment.

The things I mentioned fall squarely into this definition.

Absolute? Prove it.

Analogy is right. God, like Easter Bunny, is one of many imaginary super natural beings that humans invented. Because the concept of God is believed by adults as opposed to just kids(for santa and easter bunny) and because that concept means the possibility of afterlife, you probably don't want to equate them.

So wait. You're asking me to prove that the Easter Bunny does not exist and in the same post you tell me that the Easter Bunny does not exist? And then you're comparing the Easter Bunny not existing to God not existing?

And all of it in a tiddy little absolute of your own?

Yeah, you got me. haha.

If I take your definition then , for you to claim that there is no evidence for easter bunny is incorrect.. since it only takes one person to claim that easter bunny exists because he spoke to him and his personal relationship with the easter bunny is an evidence. Or letters to easter bunny is evidence, or someone's diary describing the conversations with easter bunny is evidence.. etc..

Goodie,
There are no absolutes in life. Just like the Easter Bunny, the existence of God has 0 evidence. When there's 0 evidence, you normally go with I'm 99.99999% sure the loch ness monster doesn't exist just because there's a chance in the future you might get more evidence(highly unlikely obv but not impossible) that will change your stance. Since it's too tedious to say that, people generally say it doesn't exist.

But does that evidence actually exist to support that there is an Easter Bunny? Where is the evidence?

Do you not understand the definition of evidence? Is that the problem? It's incredibly clear that the things I mentioned fall into the category of evidence. I'm not sure how you got to the 0 evidence conclusion.

This thread would make me angry if it didn't make me tired.

My kids have a book that was written about the Easter bunny and it makes a pretty convincing argument. Does that constitute evidence in the same way you state that the bible is evidence?

For not wanting to fall into the "trap" (of reason), you sure did take the cheese!

0 evidence worth considering. If you look at the evidence you gave, we have to read with straight face the stories of some girl eating an apple and cursing the entire humanity forever, a talking snake, a guy raising from the dead, a promise of 72 virgins in heaven...if you told this story to any adult who never heard of religion without scaring them about hell, they'd laugh at you. None of this is evidence that matters. Just like whatever evidence that convinced people that the earth is flat doesn't count as evidence.

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Please explain how my evidence I have presented differs in any way to someone seeing a picture of jesus in burnt toast and calling it evidence. You can't, because they are both type of "evidence" that exist to support something that cannot be proven. Please, just admit that your logic is faulty so we can move the hell on.

So, what all of you guys are saying is that it's really just as ridiculous to believe in God as it is in the Easter Bunny? I don't believe in the Christian God by any means but it's more possible that the Christian God exists than it is the Easter Bunny. You guys REALLY don't see that? REALLY???? REALLY????? Use your brains, people.

How can you tell that something is more likely to exist if you have zero evidence proving any of those two claims... Are you going to say that existence of Zues is less likely or more likely then Christian GOD? what about Hindu gods are they more likely or less likely then Christian GOD? What about Egyptian gods? What about other GODS? what about the celestial teapot, fairies, Satan, FMS?

You guys are just being ridiculous for the sake of being ridiculous.

There is no proof of either but of course there is more evidence that God exists than the Easter Bunny. It's just foolish to think otherwise.

If you were to ask anyone in the world to choose between trying to prove that God doesn't exist and the that the Easter Bunny doesn't exist and their life depended on proving one or the other, do you think anyone alive would pick God?

I understand the fact that you don't want to believe in God and cannot immediately accept and even question the idea of a higher intelligent source. In all honestly I respect this atheistic notion.

But, don't you see a minor bit of folly in your reasoning here? You believe in the dawkinsian notion that religious people are indoctrinated from birth and therefore are zombie like and brainwashed.

I believe every human being has the capacity to judge ethically, morally and intellectually.

The Bible has incredibly astounding track record. If the notion of an Easter bunny or let's just say myth X (flying spaghetti monster, boogie man, santa claus etc...) were to have produced documents like the Bible and founded a people that would be displaced several times and suffered an incredible holocaust for no apparent reason and predicted their national return by its divine hand (myth X divinity)...( such as deuteronomy 30).

I would think this would merit some great attention!

If you were at the bellagio in the high rollers room and the first 3 hands you were busted with quads v. the same suited royal flush you would not shrug you're shoulders and attribute this to chance. I am sure you would be enormously suspicious!

You seem to be assuming that in order to know that p, you must be 100% certain that p. I'm pretty sure that rizeagainst, along with most current philosophers reject this understanding of knowledge.

What is the evidence that proves that GOD is to exist more likely then Easter Bunny?

Yes, I was making that assumption and judging by Rizeagainst's posts in this thread where he said he proved that Christianity is wrong, I think he's making that assumption as well.

I don't really care what current philosophers have concluded about knowledge, when you come into a public forum and say "I know", you must assume that people are going to think you mean that you are 100% certain as that's what everyone other than the current philoshopers you speak of mean.

Basically, your point is moot.

record of what?


people have died for all kinds of religious beliefs and will continue to die for them, that does not make their belief become some type of evidence for existence of their GOD.

Would you actually ask this question to someone in real life? It really makes you sound ridiculous.

I have not studied the history of the Easter Bunny enough to really comment too much but two things come to mind. Timeline I would think plays a part. The history of the Easter Bunny I would think is a more recent occurance making it easier to prove/disprove existence. Also, the fact that only children believe in it's existance and no adults seems pretty powerfull when making a case.