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01-13-2011 , 10:12 AM

#126

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Originally Posted by Justin A

Genesis is wrong even as an allegory.

Genesis is right even as literal.

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01-13-2011 , 11:00 AM

#127

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Originally Posted by Jibninjas

Genesis is right even as literal.

Which one? Genesis 1? Or Genesis 2 and 3?

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01-13-2011 , 12:04 PM

#128

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Originally Posted by Original Position

Which one? Genesis 1? Or Genesis 2 and 3?

Don't have a problem with taking all of them literally.

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01-13-2011 , 12:04 PM

#129

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Originally Posted by bunny

ah. Argument from ignorance again.

I thought you were taking the Christian conception, you know, for the sake of the argument? Almost no theologian thinks god can do everything. (he can't forget, do evil things, draw square circles... Maybe he needed to create a misleading bible. You're the one who's ruled out any such option.

For god? I have no idea, that's my point.

shouldn't we call in somebody who has an idea, because rize is arguing against the idea of the christian god.
There is nothing to discuss if c-god is just an undefined handwavy thingee.

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01-13-2011 , 12:11 PM

#130

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Originally Posted by Jibninjas

Don't have a problem with taking all of them literally.

So you don't believe in evolution?

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01-13-2011 , 12:37 PM

#131

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Originally Posted by Jibninjas

The story of Adam and Eve is perfectly compatible with evolution while being a literal story

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Originally Posted by Jibninjas

Genesis is right even as literal.

It's statements like these that make it impossible to take you seriously.

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01-13-2011 , 12:40 PM

#132

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Originally Posted by Hopey

It's statements like these that make it impossible to take you seriously.

It's statements like these that let me know you don't care to pay attention to the opposing side at all. Which means you don't even care if you are right or wrong, you just want to cling to your beliefs.

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01-13-2011 , 12:40 PM

#133

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So you don't believe in evolution?

yes I do.

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01-13-2011 , 12:42 PM

#134

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Originally Posted by Borg7

So you don't believe in evolution?

Jib shares DNA with Humpty-Dumpty. You will be surprised at his use of literal and evolution.

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01-13-2011 , 12:43 PM

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The story of Adam and Eve is perfectly compatible with evolution while being a literal story

It's not compatible with the laws of procreation or the problems of inbreeding though is it?

How old was Adam when he died?

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01-13-2011 , 12:44 PM

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So you don't believe in evolution?

He believes in Intelligent Design. He believes in "Micro evolution" but not "Macro evolution". This is an improvement over his beliefs when he first joined the board. He was closer to a Young Earth creationist when he first decided to grace us with his presence.

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01-13-2011 , 12:46 PM

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It's statements like these that make it impossible to take you seriously.

Jib is a just beer-buddy, fun to toss ideas around with in a silly way. It's NR you should take seriously ... he's the scary one.

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01-13-2011 , 12:47 PM

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Don't have a problem with taking all of them literally.

So you don't have a problem accepting contradictory stories as true?

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01-13-2011 , 12:48 PM

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It's not compatible with the laws of procreation or the problems of inbreeding though is it?

He believes that there were other people living outside the Garden of Eden when Adam and Eve were cast out. These are the people that Adam and Eve's descendants bred with.

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How old was Adam when he died?

You won't like his answer for this one.

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01-13-2011 , 12:52 PM

#140

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this is wrong.

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01-13-2011 , 12:57 PM

#141

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"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?"

Douglas Adams

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01-13-2011 , 12:57 PM

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So you don't have a problem accepting contradictory stories as true?

Maybe you could point out what you believe to be contradictory so I can either tell you why I believe they are not contradictory or concede that I do not take them 100% literally (which is probably more likely, lol). That way I don't have to guess what your point is.

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01-13-2011 , 12:59 PM

#143

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So you don't have a problem accepting contradictory stories as true?

They're not contradictory if "tall" means "going for a walk" and "heavy" means "it's been a long day".

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01-13-2011 , 12:59 PM

#144

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I guess the only way I could disprove the above would be to accept christianity and/or Intelligent Design?

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01-13-2011 , 01:02 PM

#145

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I guess the only way I could disprove the above would be to accept christianity and/or Intelligent Design?

Redundancy used to be frowned upon. "made in his image" by an non-idiot IS intelligent design.

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01-13-2011 , 01:04 PM

#146

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this is wrong.

You keep claiming this, but your posting history betrays the truth.

It's like you're ashamed to admit that you believe in magic, because you know that your beliefs can't stand up to scrutiny.

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01-13-2011 , 01:06 PM

#147

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Originally Posted by Hopey

You keep claiming this, but your posting history betrays the truth.

It's like you're ashamed to admit that you believe in magic, because you know that your beliefs can't stand up to scrutiny.

Time to dig up some old posts so we know if he's lying now because he's too embarrassed or remembered something incorrectly

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01-13-2011 , 01:10 PM

#148

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Originally Posted by KB24

Time to dig up some old posts so we know if he's lying now because he's too embarrassed or remembered something incorrectly

This thread would be a good example:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/47...5/#post6912147

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Originally Posted by Jibninjas

but the point still stands, you have never seen an example of one species evolve into another. i do not care what you call it, that is the facts. just because you have seen one strain of flu virus evolve into a newer version, does not mean that proves a frog can turn into a bird.

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Originally Posted by Jibninjas

evolution believes that we all came from the same primortial ooze. so most people make rediculous statements just to prove that point.

evolution does think that species evolved into other species. with all of the hundreds of thousands of fossil records that we have, they have come no closer to any evidence that this has ever happened or is even possible, in fact it is getting more obvious with all of the evidence that we have that this is not a credible belief.

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Originally Posted by Vhawk

You are joking, right? Fossil evidence, while completely unnecessary, essentially makes evolution a slam dunk. WHY do you believe that the fossil record is a point in your favor? It obliterates you.

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Originally Posted by Jibninjas

wow, i cannot believe how misinformed you are. lol

Though whenever I've done this in the past, he either ignores my posts or claims that the posts I'm quoting back are being taken out of context.

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01-13-2011 , 01:45 PM

#149

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When were those posts?

Edit: I just looked. Lol, those are from like two years ago. Am I not allowed to change my position?

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01-13-2011 , 01:49 PM

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How about we place a bet. You dig up a post where I say that I advocate ID (the behe/dembski version not just believe that a creator exists, etc) in the last 5-6 months.

If you cannot you get banned for 6 months. You choose what you want if you win. Although you only have 5 min to decide otherwise you can cheat.

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