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06-17-2010 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
We'll he's probably got about a 30 year head-start on you.

Do you believe that Pletho is infallible in his interpretation of scripture?
I have only been studying the bible for 14 years not 30.
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06-17-2010 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
LOL you are right, i apologize. (see that wasnt so hard now was it?)

Anyways, if you really care, feel free to read up on Pletho's posting history from the beginning. That google link should suffice.
all Gunth has to do is search pletho posts for the words RIGHTLY DIVIDE WORD and he'll find it soon enough.

Pletho doesn't deny what I say. I could care less to take the time to prove it to Gunth.
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06-17-2010 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Weatherhead03
So when Islam emphatically denies that Jesus was crucified or resurrected who do we appeal to?

When Islam denies that Jesus was the Son of God. Who do we appeal to?

Flip a coin?

Just ignore it because you were born in the Western Hemisphere?
Christianity is the only one that teaches that a man who was the son of God rose from the dead.

Also its the only book that says of itself that its Gods heart to all generations.

No other religion can make any of those claims. None.......
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06-17-2010 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerok
You go back and look at the gospels and when they were written, about 10-50 years after Christ was crucified, then you look at the Koran and see it was written about 500-600 years afterwards.
Yep.......
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06-17-2010 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
I have only been studying the bible for 14 years not 30.
Which means you've been studying the bible for as long as Gunth has been alive.
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06-17-2010 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kurto
all Gunth has to do is search pletho posts for the words RIGHTLY DIVIDE WORD and he'll find it soon enough.

Pletho doesn't deny what I say. I could care less to take the time to prove it to Gunth.
Well others took the time to try to prove your claim for you and they were shown wrong.
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06-17-2010 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
Which means you've been studying the bible for as long as Gunth has been alive.
You are only being dishonest with yourself.
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06-17-2010 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
That disqualifies lots of supposed Christians from having the truth and the mormons and many, many other religions, thats for sure.
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06-17-2010 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
Which means you've been studying the bible for as long as Gunth has been alive.
Is he 14?

Anyway what does that matter in the first place?
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06-17-2010 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
Christianity is the only one that teaches that a man who was the son of God rose from the dead.

Also its the only book that says of itself that its Gods heart to all generations.

No other religion can make any of those claims. None.......
So?
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06-17-2010 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
No dknightx, that is the point. Kurto is trying to discredit Pletho because he claims Pletho thinks he is right because Pletho knows how to divide God's Word correctly..
God you're brainless. Ask Pletho himself.

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Did kurto not claim this?

Every post you linked (that was actually Pletho talking about Scripture... he provided evidence in Scripture about what he was claiming
You still miss the point. SURPRISE! Christians who disagree and base their views are wrong according to Pletho because he knows how to rightly divide the word and they don't. If you disagree with Pletho, YOU ARE WRONG. Ask him yourself.

By the way, I hope you don't think Jesus is God and believe in the trinity because if you do, you are wrong. Pletho has made that clear that Christians who believe that all cannot rightly divide the Bible. And don't challenge him because you don't understand the Bible like him.

I do love how you jump to defend a person when, not only are you wrong as usual, but you're defending a guy who also thinks you are pretty much wrong on spiritual matters. Luckily you don't have the reading comprehension to figure this out on your own so you'll continue defending the guy who in his authority says you have no idea what you're talking about.

Good times!
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06-17-2010 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
Is he 14?

Anyway what does that matter in the first place?
I am actually 25 but have been blind for most those years, probably still blind.
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06-17-2010 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Concerto
Correct, that is an appeal to authority. However, it is not an appeal to authority fallacy. Not all appeals to authority are appeal to authority fallacies.
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Originally Posted by Weatherhead03
So when Islam emphatically denies that Jesus was crucified or resurrected who do we appeal to?

When Islam denies that Jesus was the Son of God. Who do we appeal to?

Flip a coin?

Just ignore it because you were born in the Western Hemisphere?
What is the logical connection between your post and mine?
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06-17-2010 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
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You are your own self proclaimed authority regarding what the Bible says or doesnt say.

That is obviously what kurto meant, why are you being purposely dense?
Its not on purpose. By all evidence its just who he is.
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06-17-2010 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
And why would I follow it up with scripture?

Because if God says it then its truth, and if I believe it, then I am right.

Thats simple isn't it?

And then this statement logically, axiomatically can be applied and deducted to be true.

"Anyone who does not agree with me, when I am in agreement with God's word cannot be right".

Thats simple, maybe you should slow down, calm your emotions and think through what I am saying, its perfect logic.
The funny thing is that Pletho is proving that I'm correct here, but Gunth will be too dense to understand. Gunth can't even comprehend what Pletho is saying here.
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06-17-2010 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
I am actually 25 but have been blind for most those years, probably still blind.
Then it's a good thing you found Pletho. He'll set you on the right path.

Have you skyped with him yet?
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06-17-2010 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
Well others took the time to try to prove your claim for you and they were shown wrong.
None of them ever, EVER took the time to actually learn about rightly dividing the word and applying those principles.

It still goes back to the same old circular arguement.

I do not believe in your God, even if you tell me you can prove it to me, I am not going to do what you say needs to be done to see the proof.

If scientists acted in this manner, meaning they were not willing to do what was required to get some results, but just sat there and said "SHOW ME", "PROVE IT TO ME" AND I WILL BELIEVE, they would get no where.

They know that they have got to take some action to get a result, but God only requires 1 action and that is to believe, simple as it can be, thats it.

They will just keep being dishonest and hedging and dodging the fact that they are not willing to do what any sane logical scientist would do, which is do the actions required to get the results.
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06-17-2010 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kurto
The funny thing is that Pletho is proving that I'm correct here, but Gunth will be too dense to understand. Gunth can't even comprehend what Pletho is saying here.
Then can you please provide one instance so we all can see what you are referring to?
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06-17-2010 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
They will just keep being dishonest and hedging and dodging the fact that they are not willing to do what any sane logical scientist would do, which is do the actions required to get the results.
I don't think that most scientific research involves a scientist skyping with a mentally ill man.
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06-17-2010 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
Well others took the time to try to prove your claim for you and they were shown wrong.
No. Wrong. And Pletho already posted in this very thread that I am right. The fact that you don't see it is proof that its hopeless to talk to you. Which explains why I didn't care to research for you. Because even when the evidence is shown, you're too stupid to understand it.
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06-17-2010 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
I am actually 25 but have been blind for most those years, probably still blind.
Actually your spiritual eyes are wide open, and you are unfortunately in one of the worst places for a new learning believer to be. Me too, meaning I should not be screwing around on here, but I believe that I have helped people so, I stay. I have had many P.M.'s from people who say they enjoy my posts.

This place is very hard spiritually, there was a guy on here who frequents still who I believe has a great heart also, but he had been beat down by these guys because he lacks the accurate knowledge and foundations of the word.
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06-17-2010 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kurto
The funny thing is that Pletho is proving that I'm correct here, but Gunth will be too dense to understand. Gunth can't even comprehend what Pletho is saying here.
This also applies to EVERY other believer, as long as the word that they know and believe is Gods rightly divided word. Simple.
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06-17-2010 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
Then it's a good thing you found Pletho. He'll set you on the right path.

Have you skyped with him yet?
Good idea!
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06-17-2010 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
Then it's a good thing you found Pletho. He'll set you on the right path.

Have you skyped with him yet?
Imagine Gunth's little mind if Pletho spoke to him in tongues. Gunth would explode with envy! Maybe he would stitch Pletho a hoodie with Jesus written in sparkles!
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06-17-2010 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
Then it's a good thing you found Pletho. He'll set you on the right path.

Have you skyped with him yet?
Finding Pletho had nothing to do with it. But...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBDF0...eature=related
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