You misunderstood me Rooster. I don't think you're a bigoted jerk. I don't know you. I think the Christian God is a bigoted jerk. I think God's word in the bible establishes this pretty well.

You are a delight.

Have a Nice Day!

There's plenty of gay child molestors as well as straight molestors.

And it doesn't matter if being gay is immoral.

Morality and Legality are not synonymous... is it a crime to cheat on a significant other?

hence peoples rights to disagree and express different opinions.

Ah, so Pletho has actually decided to show his true colours. It would be hard to quantify the disgust I feel towards the views he has expressed here. I will be linking some moderate Christians I am friendly with to this thread as we have been having a discussion about how religion can warp individuals and indeed can be used as an effective shield in modern society for racists and bigots to hide behind.

I wonder if Big Erf and Splendour will still be following him around patting his back after reading this.

So in the terms of evolutionary process is it correct to be gay?

plenty of threads in SMP on the topic, use the search function.

wiki/google "homosexuality and evolution" for more

They were patting his back last night when Pletho first started going off on his rants. After one of his homophobic rants, Splendour was commiserating with him as to how "closed minded" the atheists on this board are.

dknightx,

I was hoping that people would voice their opinions because I could easily do wiki/google any question I wish and almost always get a answer.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...sexuality.html

Rooster,

Can you summarize that article for us? I'm really curious as to what *you* believe it is saying.

Most of Plethos posts go rambling around always promising some truth to come, but for the first time he actually said something.

That homosexuality in some cases might even be beneficial to the fitness of the species as a whole. It goes on to explain some possibilities and reasons why it is needed to exist in some areas of animal life including us.

So in the terms of evolutionary process then why get married, why not just have "random sex" if its just to continue the species

Because men are jealous and possessive and invented it to control woman and insure their genes.

because raising the child is a way to ensure it doesnt die if left to fend for themselves.

so how come you aren't at UB anymore sir

this thread makes me laugh! how many homosexuals have posted in this thread?

is that a rhetorical question? do you think that each person that called pletho an idiot is a homosexual?

it was a rhetorical question. i didn't expect to actually get a number.

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I don't know if that question makes sense. Look at it this way. Homosexual activity has been observed in almost 1500 species. So the genetic component or disposition to being gay has been very successful in nature. If a God exists, homosexuality is CLEARLY a part of his/her/it's plan.

This statement does not follow. Just because something is capable of surviving does not mean that it is beneficial nor does it mean that it was intended.

Alcoholism had survived the ages as well. Does that mean that it is beneficial?

I didn't say or imply any of that.

Here's my point. Assuming homosexual behavior has a genetic component (which I think is a pretty safe assumption), that genetic component has been very successful in nature in terms of surviving and propagating over evolutionary time. NOTHING is intended in nature. Those genes that are relatively better at getting themselves copied end up dominating the gene pool over time. The homosexual gene(s) has been very successful in nature. This is evidenced by the fact that these genes are still present in the overall gene pool today. Genes that get themselves copied better than other genes are beneficial to themselves and that's all that matters in nature.

The genes that predispose someone to alcoholism have been beneficial in the sense that they've helped the organisms they've occupied survive and reproduce. The fact that these genes have the side effect of making someone more likely to be an alcoholic is incidental.

I do not know how much more plain and forward I can be.

Homosexuality serves NO good purpose in life whatsoever. It is from a biblical point of view the bottom of the barrel. It destroys the morality of the society on every level.

Sure their are **** Christians. Some are really Christians and some are not. Those that have gotten born again will be ressurected and have eternal life.

I do not hate ****'s I strongly dislike the act of homosexuality and any promogation of it, especially to children. Many homosexuals have been healed and have become normal and have children and wives. Thats a great thing and would love to see this happen to all of them, but I am a realist and know for a fact the the major majority of them like the sickness and twistedness they are in and do.

The more homosexuality is accepted by our society and looked upon as norm the more perverted and down the tube our country will go.

I have just as many strong view points about many other things. So please homosexexuals don't point to me and say I am singling you out. I call it like I see it and I see it from a biblical spiritual point of view.

If a homosexual wanted help I know I could honestly help them get out of homosexuality and would do whatever it took to help but only if someone was serious.

Most of you who think I am evil are actually the evil ones and God rejectors.

The majority of bible believing Christians who actually know the word well know for a fact homosexuality is wrong, and those who are Christians and sympathize with homosexuals do not know the word well or what love is.

Do you tell your childern when they do something wrong that they are right when they are actually wrong? I hope not. Same with this subject, its wrong and they are wrong and do not like hearing they are wrong. Either way it is wrong.

Does God love them? Yes, does it mean He still won't tell them they are wrong? No. When you love people you tell them they are wrong so they have a chance to change.

Well enough said, you have my voice on the matter and I do not think I need to join in again on this particular post again and talk about this subject because all you will get is something you do not agree with or do not want to hear.


Pletho

P.S. Here is what I think is sick, Homosexuals think that those who speak out against them are racist, people are people, they are born different colors and have NO CHOICE as to what color or nation they are from and are all equal in that they are humans.

That in no way is comparable to Homosexuality which is a CHOICE. They always try and throw out the racist card are something similar.

are you 100% convinced of this? is there anything that could possibly change your mind?

if homosexuality is a choice how is it a bad thing? it stems the overpopulation if nothing else. i for one applaud these ppl for making the choice to pound aszhole (or forced if in prison obv)