I have never really been hit on by a gay dude. I have been told that I do not give off any sort of gay vibe.

Kinda disappointing. I mean, I know the ladies think that I am sexy, but if the dudes did too... then I would have proof that I am one sexy bitch!

I have caught them checking me out a couple times, so I guess that counts for something, right?

sure
http://www.google.com/
look up homosexuality in the old testament.
then look up homosexuality in the new testament.

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This clearly means "people who offend homosexuals". And to think...you Christians had it wrong all this time.

lol, you know I was actually going to make the same comment. When I read that that was the first thing that popped into my head. good stuff

Pletho you are a ****ing idiot. Ill start by just saying that gays have all of the tax benefits of marriage in some states where they are still actively fighting for gay marriage, so you're talking out of your ass about that. I'll also point out that the majority of gay males were not molested by males as children, and that you're talking out of your ass about that as well.

Holy **** there is not a single fact in this paragraph. Their voices aren't different, especially not when you qualify it as talking about the same person before and after they come out of the closet. The cornerstones of every single argument you have made ITT are blatant falsehoods.

I've watched your videos. I disagree.

Really? I think your are a spiritual idiot. And have nothing useful ever to say about anything. You pop in and out of threads with one liners all the time adding nothing to the conversation at all.

Prove that I am wrong. In some states is right but they want the laws passed in ALL the states. Gay loving states like massachusits and and maybe California may have these laws passed already I am not sure but I know what they are after, MONEY! and children to have sex with and influence.

See if they teach the children homosexuality is okay and normal those children will grow up thinking it is normal and possibly switch over when accosted by some freakin perv. They want a country of male on male freaks. Or woman on woman freaks.

They are after destroying the family concept and many other things and when I say they I mean they the H*m*'s from a spritual warfare point of view. Which I know you will nbot understand because yuou are a spiritual idiot.

Pletho

Pletho-

They already get the money, they still want the term marriage to apply, therefore they are not doing it for the money. And the last few threads I have replied to your posts in, I have rebuked your drivel with facts and sources, to which you have responded by ignoring the posts.

When you start a thread or take hours to write a reply, you manage to use enough big words and abstract language to fool people into believing you know what you're talking about. When you think more quickly and react to arguments, you speak plainly enough to expose your ignorance.

wow, pletho you are a real piece of ****...

do all the theists feel the same way as him? ive read a lot of ridiculous stuff on this forum, but this might take the cake....

Sure their voices are different. They have changed and their demeanor, the way they move ect... ALL to immitate a woman. If you can't see that then you really are dumb and blind, more than I first thought.

Just so you know, I am not trying to be politically correct or anything else that you may agree with.

Pletho

Pletho, you're beyond politically incorrect in this thread. In fact, you're so far beyond it that you're not even a Christian.

If by "they" you mean a few people that you have seen, or the typical media/hollywood portrayal then you are correct. If by "they" you mean homosexuals, then you are laughably wrong. No one wants you to be politically correct, just correct in any way would be a nice change. Could you cite some proof of the difference in voices and actions?

People like Pletho are a sickness in humanity

Didn't Pletho already admit to being 14 in the other thread? Why are people wasting time debating a child (in every sense of the word)?

note- he may have been lying about his age... but if so, I suspect he's lying about everything. I'm going on a limb and suggesting that he wants attention. Since Splendour has the monopoly on 'crazy cat lady', he's playing the ignorant racist troll card.

Absolutely not. Pletho's comments are so bigoted they don't, in my opinion, evne warrant a response, I'm so baffled I don't even know if I could respond without being a huge jerk.

However, I will say that I certainly know:

Straight Christians who believe living a gay lifestyle is not a sin

Straight Christians who believe living a gay lifestyle is sinful, but that people shouldn't be legally prevented from making such a choice if they want to

Straight Christians who enjoy the company of gay friends even if they disagree with their sexual choices

happily gay Christians.

Do I know creepy homophobic Christians like Pletho as well? Sure. However, don't think for a moment that Pletho's viewpoint speaks for all Christians.

for the most part this is the same group right?

Is it morally wrong to be gay?

yeah...i understand that in every group (especially religious ones) people will have different opinions...i think i asked the wrong question...

im more curious whether or not most theists could reach the same conclusions that pletho did based on scripture...or is he some fringe radical that is totally misinterpreting one or two vague lines from the bible...hopefully that makes more sense...

Yes, according to your bible. No, according to any moral framework based on compassion.

Remember, just because the Christian God is a bigoted jerk doesn't mean you have to be.

Why do people assume things I just asked a simple question.

Why did you feel the need to say this? The statement above suggest that you think I am a bigoted jerk?

If this is they way some people treat each other outside my religion than I am so lucky.

Pletho, heres a helpful diagram

Have a Nice Day!

i guess it depends where you think your morals are from...

if, like most atheists on this board, you think they come from the compassion and some sort of golden rule then its not immoral to be gay, why would it matter?

but, if you get them from scripture like pletho then apparently it is...(im still not sure if pletho is a fringe on what the scripture says)

I read this as:

'It's something I believe based on absolutely nothing logical, so I'll refrain from embarrassing myself'

This and your comments about people being 'spiritual idiots' is just like saying 'I believe stuff based on nothing, and you disagree, so yeah you're an idiot'.


You remind me of that banner at the top of http://www.macbook-case.com that compares stuffs with a disclaimer at the bottom 'This is my opinion and not based on any facts at all'.