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03-09-2009 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
Whether it's people being more willing to admit non-affiliation, or an intellectual shift toward atheism, the end result is a net increase in political power for atheists, at least for the time being and assuming no significant backlash.
So you believe that people are becoming dumber?
03-09-2009 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
So you believe that people are becoming dumber?
Does it concern you that people are becoming increasingly smarter and also increasingly atheistic?
03-09-2009 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
So you believe that people are becoming dumber?
Sick burn! Impossible to recover from imo.
03-09-2009 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
Does it concern you that people are becoming increasingly smarter and also increasingly atheistic?
I think "statistics skepticism" will take away his concern.
03-09-2009 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
So you believe that people are becoming dumber?
Are you actually trying to say that theists are, on average, more intelligent than Atheists? Do you think if we took a randomised sample of 5000 Christian scientists and a randomised sample of 5000 atheistic scientists that the Christians would come out on top?

Imagine we swapped the Christian scientists for Christian ministers, what would the outcome be then.

I understand these tests are in no way perfect but I think they still would make a point.
03-09-2009 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by devilset666
Are you actually trying to say that theists are, on average, more intelligent than Atheists? Do you think if we took a randomised sample of 5000 Christian scientists and a randomised sample of 5000 atheistic scientists that the Christians would come out on top?

Imagine we swapped the Christian scientists for Christian ministers, what would the outcome be then.

I understand these tests are in no way perfect but I think they still would make a point.
There's no question that higher levels of intelligence (unless, like Splendour, you measure intelligence by religiosity levels) is correlated with a decrease in religious belief. I would say that this is (perhaps not extremely strong) evidence that theist claims to being more logical are not based on any realistic measurement of logic.
03-09-2009 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
You don't have to have "statistics skepticism" in order to recognize that correlations don't prove causation. You just need to take, I dunno, one college course.

xkcd: Correlation
03-09-2009 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
So you believe that people are becoming dumber?
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Originally Posted by devilset666
Are you actually trying to say that theists are, on average, more intelligent than Atheists? Do you think if we took a randomised sample of 5000 Christian scientists and a randomised sample of 5000 atheistic scientists that the Christians would come out on top?

Imagine we swapped the Christian scientists for Christian ministers, what would the outcome be then.

I understand these tests are in no way perfect but I think they still would make a point.
Naw...that's just Jib's way of announcing he's leaving a particular thread. He says something completely idiotic with no evidence to back his claim, then leaves. Previous examples include statements like, "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist", and, "you ******s, Noah's Ark is so obviously real and all of your arguments have been refuted long ago by various YEC websites...not guna waste my time."
03-09-2009 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
I'm not a big fan of statistics
Except when claiming life is 50/50
03-09-2009 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
So you believe that people are becoming dumber?
03-09-2009 , 11:21 PM
well thank god for that
03-10-2009 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
A little more statistics skepticism is a healthy thing otherwise you never look at underlying causes and/or long term results and effects.
Why stop at statistics? I'm utterly shocked more people didn't pounce on this comment.
03-10-2009 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Pog0
Why stop at statistics? I'm utterly shocked more people didn't pounce on this comment.
Because it's a lost cause.
03-10-2009 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Claudius Galenus
Because it's a lost cause.
I learned that one the hard way.
03-10-2009 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Claudius Galenus
Because it's a lost cause.
Its only a lost cause if you are concerned about getting to a satisfying ending. The joy of conversing with Splendour is the journey, filled with non-sequitors, circular reasoning, self-contradictions, emotional tirades, etc. Its not about the end destination, its about the journey!
03-10-2009 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
what an obviously accurate and informative study
03-10-2009 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Limesparks
what an obviously accurate and informative study
omg u totally got me dude i just made it in photoshop i thought u wood think its real
03-10-2009 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
The latest American Religious Identification Survey contains some comforting numbers for atheists:



Another key piece of information: the number of people reporting their religion as "none" has risen in all 50 states since 1990. The pace of change is glacial in some states (only a 2% increase in Arkansas and Mississippi) but nevertheless atheism is increasing its share of the population nationwide.
I agree that this is true. Unfortunatley. There are numerous amounts of Muslims moving here. There are countless amount of Catholics who are moving here from Mexico if they can get past the border patrol. There are untold amounts of Christians who worship false gods other than then true God. On and on and on. This will be the main downfall of our country unless it is corrected.

Obama does not help this country at all in that he is a sympathizer to the muslims, which is his background. He is not really a black man he is a muslim in my opinion disguised as a black man. Which is an ingenious disguise because so many people especially the blacks in this country will fall for it. Mainly because they are still emotional over all the crap they had to put up with in the past from white racist.

If people only knew and believed what is going on here in the US from a spiritual biblical standpoint they might change their ways, but I doubt it.

Pletho
03-10-2009 , 06:19 PM
Even if he were a Muslim, what difference would it make? Why is sympathizing with Muslims any worse than sympathizing with Christians or Jews?
03-10-2009 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
There are countless amount of Catholics who are moving here from Mexico if they can get past the border patrol. There are untold amounts of Christians who worship false gods other than then true God. On and on and on. This will be the main downfall of our country unless it is corrected.

Pletho
Which is worse? The Catholics or the Christians who worship false gods?
03-10-2009 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Which is worse? The Catholics or the Christians who worship false gods?
Both, But I will lay the blame more on the Christians between the two.

The catholics don't know any better because they believe the pope above and beyond the word of God.

The Christians have the word of God and can read it but choose to not go by nor believe what it says. Much like the the Israelites of the old testament which was to their demise.

I am also sure you have some kind of angle to your question which I know I didn't oblige. Because I am not one of the false god worshipping Christians that defends all other Christians with some watered down words of hypocritical psuedo fake love.

I like chess also.

Pletho

Last edited by Pletho; 03-10-2009 at 06:33 PM.
03-10-2009 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
omg u totally got me dude i just made it in photoshop i thought u wood think its real
you would have had me if it werent for the 10 or so countries populated by functional ******s
03-10-2009 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Limesparks
you would have had me if it werent for the 10 or so countries populated by functional ******s
You seem like you know what you're talking about.
03-10-2009 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
I agree that this is true. Unfortunatley. There are numerous amounts of Muslims moving here. There are countless amount of Catholics who are moving here from Mexico if they can get past the border patrol. There are untold amounts of Christians who worship false gods other than then true God. On and on and on. This will be the main downfall of our country unless it is corrected.

Obama does not help this country at all in that he is a sympathizer to the muslims, which is his background. He is not really a black man he is a muslim in my opinion disguised as a black man. Which is an ingenious disguise because so many people especially the blacks in this country will fall for it. Mainly because they are still emotional over all the crap they had to put up with in the past from white racist.

If people only knew and believed what is going on here in the US from a spiritual biblical standpoint they might change their ways, but I doubt it.

Pletho
Jib, remember when you mentioned in another thread that you thought that Pletho was really The_Outlaw and I disagreed? I take it back. They're definitely the same person. I don't know how I missed it.

Btw...it warms my heart to see so many of our Christian posters outing themselves as racists lately. I'm sure Jesus would be proud!
03-10-2009 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
Jib, remember when you mentioned in another thread that you thought that Pletho was really The_Outlaw and I disagreed? I take it back. They're definitely the same person. I don't know how I missed it.

Btw...it warms my heart to see so many of our Christian posters outing themselves as racists lately. I'm sure Jesus would be proud!
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The_Outlaw
Who or what is that? I admit that my views are somewhat outlawed but I am not whomever you think I may be. If you need proof please feel free to investigate me as much as you would like. But if this outlaw had the same views as I do then I applaud them.

Again please inform me about this "The_Outlaw"?

Pletho

      
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