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Vegas Vlog thread (Trooper et all) Vegas Vlog thread (Trooper et all)

08-11-2015 , 10:39 PM
^Nitting it up can lead to longer stretches of breaking even. Personally I think it's a miserable and frustrating way to play unless maybe you're in one of the juicier games in Vegas. And even then it can still be miserable lol.

Just my opinion and I know you feel differently but Trooper thinks it's funny when his viewers argue with each other so I'm going to argue with you lol.
08-11-2015 , 10:40 PM
Wow Great video from Trooper97 today and just found out limon is live at the bike tonight. I'm having poker spaz attack!!!
08-11-2015 , 10:43 PM
I think the most tilting comments to me are the ones that assume Trooper can't beat the games so he should try limit. And people don't realize that limit has a lot of variance and takes effort and experience to play well. When I see NL players in a limit game they almost always suck and are often worse at limit than they are at NL.
08-11-2015 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by squid face
The speculation has been beaten to death. The answer is 900 hrs in the past year.

Trooper and I have discussed this. You have to be increadiy focused and motivated to make it as a poker pro and actually save money

Last year I played 2150 hours of kick ass poker. Not autopilot bs. But hard core top shelf stuff

This year I am taking it ez and am on pace to play 1700. Again kick ass stuff with a very high w/r

Not a lot of dudes can do this. Hopefully our pal trooper can

Btw greetings from Kauai. I'm on vaca here with my daughter prior to sending her off to college
You mean you're not playing at Venetian? Guess this would be a good time to play at the 2/5 tables there tonight then lol.
08-11-2015 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
tim (or anyone else) can post hand histories here: http://www.liveatthebike.com/forums/...trategy-forum/ and i will respond in detail.
BTW, Limon, when I said, breaking "all aspects" of Trooper's game down--I meant off the table stuff too.

Just general life and mindset approaches to beating the game, as well as poker "in game" strategy stuff...

You seem like a no BS type of guy that will instantly sniff out when a person is full of it and screwing up, and you've probably seen so many pro's go down so many bad roads.

Anyway, I will bow out of this thread because I'm taking up too much time. But I know that in helping a few people in my line of work, 99 percent of the issues that makes them not succeed is mental aspects, not really "mistakes" per se, but just mental blocks that create pitfalls.
08-11-2015 , 10:51 PM
Limon should give a shoutout to Trooper for that rungood tho
08-11-2015 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
^Nitting it up can lead to longer stretches of breaking even. Personally I think it's a miserable and frustrating way to play unless maybe you're in one of the juicier games in Vegas. And even then it can still be miserable lol.

Just my opinion and I know you feel differently but Trooper thinks it's funny when his viewers argue with each other so I'm going to argue with you lol.
I'm not trying to get him to turn into an OMC. I do think that playing weak/tight is the easiest way to protect a small roll. You can still play a wider range than an OMC. You can value bet thinner than a typical OMC. People will still pay you off when you make a hand. Most are not paying attention anyway.

I know you have thought, "what is this guy doing playing a $600 pot with one pair vs this nit".

Last edited by rawdawg_7; 08-11-2015 at 11:04 PM.
08-11-2015 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rawdawg_7
I'm not trying to get him to turn into an OMC. I do think that playing weak/tight is the easiest way to protect a small roll. You can still play a wider range than an OMC. You can value bet thinner than a typical OMC. People will still pay you off when you make a hand. Most are not paying attention anyway.

I know you have thought, "what is this guy doing playing a $600 pot with one pair vs this nit".
I have a hard time imagining Trooper playing like an OMC. I was just not confident that passing up on less profitable oppprtunities in an attempt to reduce variance is a good idea.
08-12-2015 , 12:13 AM
In reference to the race analogy from the video. It seems that the job keeps your opponent a set distance behind you due to the stability and consistency of income. Is this something that you might consider to bring you back into the "race" or keep you ahead of your opponent?
08-12-2015 , 12:20 AM
Ive watched almost all of these videos, they are pretty funny. I personally have never played with him, but friends of friends know him. Hes not totally lost, but I wouldnt call him great at poker either. Perfect videos for when you cant sleep.
08-12-2015 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Checkko
Maybe it’s time for Trooper to stop being honest to us and start being honest to himself. Would I invest in Troopers crowdfund bankroll? Hell yes. But the only +EV I would expect to come out of that would be the Entertainment Value.

Let play devil’s advocate:

Poker has been a huge part of Troopers life for what? ~ 15 Years. Not even a 45K Bad Beat Jackpot or the SNG tear ups with Harry have kept our hero afloat throughout the years*. After being poker pro for a few years our hero needed get a job and pull un ungodly amount of shifts in Jacksonville to get out of make-up and back to Vegas with not much more than his d*ck in hand.

*I could be completely off and maybe Trooper ‘payed his grannies medical bills’ with all that money in which case I – of course – apologise.

Not one time have I heard Trooper speak about improving his game. All I heard is he doesn’t read poker books and the very few time a hand was discussed (say; leap of faith video) it made me - an untalented break-even poker player - raise eyebrows. I think if Trooper invested 15% of the time he puts in the vlog in poker (CrushLivePoker vids for example) he would be just fine. Jason Koon said it best; if you don’t think you were a fish six months ago you’re not working hard enough.

I don’t think his hours went up (maybe even down?) after quitting the job and quitting was an atrocious decision; it was the perfect gig. It had him on some sort of schedule and it was what? two days a week. Give away a shift when running hot pick up and extra shift after a bad week.

I guess the question Trooper needs to ask himself is this; I’m I a vlogger who plays poker or a Poker player who vlogs?

Trooper. I sound like d*ck here but trust me; I’m rooting for you big time. I can see this YouTube thing explode one day and I hope you make fat stacks when it happens. No doubt in my mind you’ll find a way out of the current hole but maybe it’s time throw away the shovel – in your case no schedule – and stop digging these holes.

Best of luck and I hope your plan works out. #TeamTrooper
Dude, you hit the nail on the head. I think clearly he is a skilled poker player and has the goods to make it but has serious room to grow. I think he has 3 major problems- The problems I see are the inability to hold himself accountable and objectively critique himself, bankroll management and maintaining a poker/life balance. He often insults the people he has played against as if he was the greatest thing poker has ever seen. This high level or arrogance is in very poor form and also leads to one of his other problems, also if you watch his videos you will notice that any time he reports a losing session its followed with some excuse "I made all the right decisions but then it went bad..." I've never heard him say- I played bad and paid the price for it/ got out played/ I was not on my A game for this session. How can you grow as a poker player if you are not willing to admit your mistakes and learn from them? I don't know if he is embarrassed or truly believes it was not his fault "run bad" or "variance" or whatever but he is either unwilling or unable to objectively and honest evaluate himself- This also leads to one of his problems in BMR- The inability to contain losing sessions- He has winning sessions and losing ones but the losers seem to be way bigger than they should be, sometimes 4 or 5 buy ins in one session. This should never happen, I thinks its due to the things I mentioned above where he can't admit its his fault so he will continue to re-buy into the bad sessions where he is on tilt playing bad and should have left long ago but stay because he refuses to recognize the situation he is in. The game where the guy was announcing his hole cards is a perfect example, I mean how much do you really stand to gain from that? obviously nothing because he still lost 1K what does that say about your judgement when your in that spot and finish the way he did? He has got to learn to identify a losing situation and escape it. Finally I do not think he has put enough effort into building a life outside of poker, I do not think he has a solid base of friends or girlfriend to go do none poker stuff with(I can't imagine how that is because hes a really cool interesting funny guy), I don't think he has bought any thing or done anything with his winnings to have something to show for his effort. I know you have to build a roll and are on a mission but you have to have some quality of life like, some nice new sheets or clothes. Like small decorations for his place or maybe go sky diving or go kart racing every once in a while. You know step away from the table and enjoy yourself. I don't think he has any hobbies outside of poker which is a recipe for failure. He definitely has the goods to make it just needs to open up and be more dynamic to make the changes he needs to make.
08-12-2015 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NonrevFlyer
In reference to the race analogy from the video. It seems that the job keeps your opponent a set distance behind you due to the stability and consistency of income. Is this something that you might consider to bring you back into the "race" or keep you ahead of your opponent?
With a job, there is no race, so long as the job covers living. Or maybe it's a different race. In that race, the opponent catching up doesnt end the race. Not that there's anything wrong with a job.
08-12-2015 , 12:35 AM
Come on guys lets all stop wasting our breathe.

It's pretty obvious at this point with all the data we have that there is only one cause of this situation for the Trooper.

Going to Starbucks every day and drinking da coffee 😳
08-12-2015 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JamieVG
Ive watched almost all of these videos, they are pretty funny. I personally have never played with him, but friends of friends know him. Hes not totally lost, but I wouldnt call him great at poker either. Perfect videos for when you cant sleep.
Purely objectively speaking, if you haven't played with me, how on Earth, or even beyond, would you know if I'm great at poker? Sounds like your only info is third hand or worse. No offense taken, for obv reasons, and certainly none intended. Just a but baffled I do appreciate you watching the vids tho!
08-12-2015 , 12:40 AM
I'm still rooting for you Trooper.

I think the best thing an aspiring LV pro can do is network with other winning players. You seem to be a lone wolf character, but there's a lot to gain from other perspectives. The real long term winning live players all have a friend network, in my observation. Luckily you've been offered a ton of great advice from legit long term live pros like Squid and Limon, I would snap up anything they offer in a heartbeat.

Best of luck to you, and great work on the videos.
08-12-2015 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
Come on guys lets all stop wasting our breathe.

It's pretty obvious at this point with all the data we have that there is only one cause of this situation for the Trooper.

Going to Starbucks every day and drinking da coffee 😳
You didn't think I'd fall for this did you? COME ON!
08-12-2015 , 12:44 AM
Hahahahahahaha it was an asinine move
08-12-2015 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTrooper97
Purely objectively speaking, if you haven't played with me, how on Earth, or even beyond, would you know if I'm great at poker? Sounds like your only info is third hand or worse. No offense taken, for obv reasons, and certainly none intended. Just a but baffled I do appreciate you watching the vids tho!
Yes 3rd hand. Can you actually start incorporating more HH into your videos?
08-12-2015 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotrodsather
Dude, you hit the nail on the head. I think clearly he is a skilled poker player and has the goods to make it but has serious room to grow. I think he has 3 major problems- The problems I see are the inability to hold himself accountable and objectively critique himself, bankroll management and maintaining a poker/life balance. He often insults the people he has played against as if he was the greatest thing poker has ever seen. This high level or arrogance is in very poor form and also leads to one of his other problems, also if you watch his videos you will notice that any time he reports a losing session its followed with some excuse "I made all the right decisions but then it went bad..." I've never heard him say- I played bad and paid the price for it/ got out played/ I was not on my A game for this session. How can you grow as a poker player if you are not willing to admit your mistakes and learn from them? I don't know if he is embarrassed or truly believes it was not his fault "run bad" or "variance" or whatever but he is either unwilling or unable to objectively and honest evaluate himself- This also leads to one of his problems in BMR- The inability to contain losing sessions- He has winning sessions and losing ones but the losers seem to be way bigger than they should be, sometimes 4 or 5 buy ins in one session. This should never happen, I thinks its due to the things I mentioned above where he can't admit its his fault so he will continue to re-buy into the bad sessions where he is on tilt playing bad and should have left long ago but stay because he refuses to recognize the situation he is in. The game where the guy was announcing his hole cards is a perfect example, I mean how much do you really stand to gain from that? obviously nothing because he still lost 1K what does that say about your judgement when your in that spot and finish the way he did? He has got to learn to identify a losing situation and escape it. Finally I do not think he has put enough effort into building a life outside of poker, I do not think he has a solid base of friends or girlfriend to go do none poker stuff with(I can't imagine how that is because hes a really cool interesting funny guy), I don't think he has bought any thing or done anything with his winnings to have something to show for his effort. I know you have to build a roll and are on a mission but you have to have some quality of life like, some nice new sheets or clothes. Like small decorations for his place or maybe go sky diving or go kart racing every once in a while. You know step away from the table and enjoy yourself. I don't think he has any hobbies outside of poker which is a recipe for failure. He definitely has the goods to make it just needs to open up and be more dynamic to make the changes he needs to make.
it's pretty funny you say he's clearly a skilled poker player when nothing has really demonstrated that (as much as I like his videos) yet bash him for staying in a game where a fish was literally announcing his hole cards. he's a very likable guy but all he's really demonstrated is he can beat 1/2 at a small clip and has awful bankroll management. lots of people who have played poker can beat 1/2 nl 30-40 hours a week for a few months. very few of them have any chance of being a poker pro long term.a lot of things go into being a long term poker pro, and way down on that list is knowing enough poker to beat 1/2 nl.

if you don't think it's possible to lose in a game over 50-100 hands vs some fish announcing his cards you have no clue what you're talking about. he's made many mistakes but staying in this game was not one of them.

lol@how much do you stand to gain from that. try honestly calling out your hole cards and see how fast you end up living in a dumpster.

also try paragraphs.

Last edited by borg23; 08-12-2015 at 12:56 AM.
08-12-2015 , 12:50 AM
Nice vid Troop. Good luck.
08-12-2015 , 12:51 AM
Hotrodsather,

Take a breath. You're wrong. I rarely go into detail about losing hands or winning hands. If I say "Things went bad", maybe I mean I made a mistake. With the guy announcing his cards, you are dead wrong. Just wrong. You will see, after an adequate number of hours, that I will beat this life.

I often insult people I've played against? I have to assume you mean in the vlogs, not atvthe table. If I talk about an "idiot" at my table in a video, it is for the viewer's entertainment.

If you watched tonight's vlog, you should CLEARLY hear me admit my mistake.

Love the passion. Thanks for watching!
08-12-2015 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
Hahahahahahaha it was an asinine move
E for effort
08-12-2015 , 12:52 AM
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He often insults the people he has played against as if he was the greatest thing poker has ever seen. This high level or arrogance is in very poor form and also leads to one of his other problems
I can totally relate to what Trooper is doing here. I have similar thoughts about my opponents. It isn't because I think I'm so great though. Every time I play a session I see players make terrible mistakes. I'm often having thoughts like "What was that person doing?"


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I do not think he has a solid base of friends or girlfriend to go do none poker stuff with(I can't imagine how that is because hes a really cool interesting funny guy)
A girlfriend can be a good thing but it can also be very distracting (I'd hate to be thinking about relationship issues at the table) and a disaster. I'd hate to have a girlfriend that has thoughts like this-

"You should have left when you were winning you idiot! I'm so angry that you risked that money as a 95% favorite and lost it all!"

"Oh you won $1k? Great! Now you need to go spend it all on me!"
08-12-2015 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JamieVG
Yes 3rd hand. Can you actually start incorporating more HH into your videos?
Doubtful. These videos are intended to appeal to a wide audience. Let an adequate number of hours speak for themselves. 900 aint it
08-12-2015 , 12:54 AM
AND THE THREAD GOES WILD

      
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