I maintain that Phil Ruffin is just going to openly allow it at T.I. and we will all just play each other in a permanent vlogger's game

Might be a good opp to set up an epic home game for the vloggers to all play

that would be highly entertaining but idk about the wisest choice for profit potential

In all honesty, this may not be the worst idea. If one room allows it, having a bunch of bloggers film hands from the same game may be beneficial for everyone. You get to hear what different people think about the same hands, making for more compelling storylines.

I would think it would take one or two sessions a week to get some decent footage, and the poker room would be moronic to turn down the free publicity.

Trooper has been consistently right on one thing since he started, namely that he has brought people into the poker rooms where he hangs out. A smaller room would be stupid not to reach out to the vloggers to get their action.

Little Andrew said **** it and kept filming day after day when they told him to stop and lady screamed at him in casino. Lolol. Love that. Excellent Vlog.

Possibly, but Trooper's issue with PH predates Polk's initial tweet. I think that the current controversy has more to do with the fact that new vloggers seem to be springing up almost daily and that now, with so many, it's not a situation that poker rooms can simply ignore or overlook. If they have a policy that prohibits filming at the table, they figure they're going to have to enforce it.

IMO, it's a misconception that poker room managers should be happy about vloggers attracting customers to their rooms. No business of sound mind should be interested in media coverage which they cannot control.

While it might seem beneficial to get youtube exposure today, the positive effect may only last until something goes sideways for the vlogger. Businesses can ameliorate the outfall of bad yelp reviews by responding. But while video is as subjective as any other media, it is generally viewed as 'the truth' of what happened, and cannot be un-seen.

What is the likely position of a manager, who approved video recording at the tables, if footage documenting grave dealer/cashier mistakes, bad floor calls, service drops, less than courteous behavior from security or customer service agents, etc. is exposed to ten to fifteen thousand regular viewers?

With the proliferation of poker vloggers this is almost certain to happen.

Trooper has an MGM video with over 87,000 views now and not only has he advertised the room, but he also repeatedly advertised its promotions. I know I'm not the only one who played there recently because I saw the room in the videos. MGM should definitely want Trooper to be a regular there just like he used to be a regular at PH.

The people watching the videos are going to be people interested in poker, gambling and Vegas. So he isn't just promoting the room. He promotes the room to an audience of people that will play there, and spend money in other parts of the casino.

I saw him playing at Venetian tonight. I didn't see him there for very long, but then again it's possible he was in the room much longer than I thought and that I just didn't notice him. I wasn't expecting to see him there.

Maybe he will promote the competition instead.

Finally, he promoted PH and Golden Nugget for over 2 years and I don't remember him criticizing the rooms until PH told him to stop filming.

TheTrooper is just being an immature baby. Private company, private property, their rules. Deal with it and stop pouting.

Yeah but he is pissed because he knows without Vegas/Poker he will not have a vlog. Look how low the view counts were when he was in Aruba people don't really care for him what he does or even has to say they just want poker and Vegas. I think he sees the end coming.

I think he is dealing with it just fine. The free advertising these rooms get mainly GN,PH, and recently MGM have benefited from Troopers daily Vlog. It's not worth it for anyone to put their job in jeopardy for the sake of a few more players in the room. I think it's in Tim's right to go on a bit of a rant if he think what he is doing is within gaming commissions rules, he didn't put up too much of a fight and just moved on.

If TI or GN could come out and say they have no issue as long as players faces are not being filmed and no players object at table- I could see some up tick in loyal followers of player vlogs and followers of other social media in said poker rooms. Those players also bring family and friends into the casino that maybe playing slots and getting food- win/win for everyone!

Well then he needs to make his videos more interesting. He didn't film at the table for quite a while and now he acts like his video world is crumbling.

Also while the manager at PH may be uninformed and says it's gaming, it's also a private company with their own rules. He should get over it or either play somewhere else.

The fella will just continue to pout because he has the emotional maturity level of an 11 year old. I mean look at the way he lives. In squalor. Look at the way he eats. The fella needs to get his priorities straight.

Poker vlogs: Come for the poker, stay for the drama. It's obviously drama which sustains vlogs, blogs, social media, twitter, etc. in general anyway.

They could control the coverage though. Don't you see?

End is coming lol? His channel is bigger than it has ever been!

He has the most interesting vlog by a long shot.

Doug Polk is the most powerful and influential man in poker obvi


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Trooper adds no value to MGM(any casino really). Trooper isn't Floyd Mayweather to the MGM. Dude, MGM doesn't care about the poker room. If they did they would pay to advertise the room more. MGM doesn't even make 1% of their profit from the poker room. They have a poker room basically as an add on.

Truthfully, MGM doesn't care about the few people that went to MGM after watching the vlog. They don't want you come and play poker. They want you to come and gamble. Not suck up free promotions.

They're going to kick him out of Vegas now? Or just another hater who likes to stretch everything out of proportion?

If every poker room banned the video-recordings, Trooper would fare well amongst most of the vloggers. Most of the recent influx of vloggers are very heavily oriented to table recording of hands, while Trooper only has a few seconds of table footage in each video.

If the MGM didn't care about their poker room and didn't want people using the promotions then they wouldn't have a poker room and/or wouldn't have the promotions. I think Trooper speaking about the room and its promotions definitely helped the room's business.

Nailed it.

No vlogger has even a minuscule impact on the bottom line of these corporations. And there is zero upside to having video work without their knowledge being down on their property. But their is some downside even if it is only the staff having to deal with customer complaints of collusion or some other concern.

What we want doesn't factor into some executive decision. Although I like seeing the hands in the videos, if I was a floor person in one of these rooms I would make the same decision.


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Why are they creating all these poker promotions then?

The value a poker room brings to the casino has been beaten to death in other forums but to summarize; it's akin to an amenity (aim of trying to keep guests staying on-property) and is the lowest revenue generator per sq/ft. Point being, casinos could give a crap about poker players, let alone poker vloggers.

They care about their poker room. As long as it brings in gamblers at other games.

To get gamblers in the door.

If they don't want me there for the promotions, why run the promotions?

Obviously MGM poker room wants people in there to play poker or they wouldn't be creating a promotion whereby you have to put in significant hours each week (30-50). Of course, as a byproduct, they hope you will eat at their restaurants and gamble.... but that doesn't change the fact that they are creating a promotion that will keep your ass in a poker chair for huge chunks of time.