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05-13-2017 , 12:45 PM
Depends how you define diligent and competent. I consider most people to be largely incompetent which would explain the #s. Hell, Trooper could make more than $65k/year dealing poker. Would he be able to set his own hours? No, but we're talking about a guy with no degree, no tangible skillset, and very little drive to succeed.
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05-13-2017 , 12:50 PM
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Thank you. I love maps and this is awesome! I wish Trooper did something like this for his vlog himself. Maybe he'll take some time and do it at the end of the trip for the vlog.
+1 I have always loved maps.
Perhaps Trooper will make something like this as a background image or thumbnail for a playlist or something. He spends a lot of time on the vlog, seems logical. But also I can agree with the eyeroll, also seems unlikely.

A lot of the regulars dropped a vlog Friday or Saturday so I have some content to catch up on. yay
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05-13-2017 , 12:56 PM
No way anywhere near 65k dealing poker in vegas.

Maybe a hot female dealing poker in a top room that was very personable and quick but for an average guy dealing and especially something equivalent to his last dealing job in a tiny crap room it would be under 40k likely.
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05-13-2017 , 01:03 PM
I never said dealing in Vegas. I know dealers that make more than that but they aren't dealing in Vegas where I believe dealers tend to make less than some other markets. Trooper was making more than that dealing home games back in the day, IIRC.

That being said, Trooper is no longer an avg guy, and I'm sure he would be in the top percentile of earning dealers in Vegas at this point.
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05-13-2017 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
No way anywhere near 65k dealing poker in vegas.

Maybe a hot female dealing poker in a top room that was very personable and quick but for an average guy dealing and especially something equivalent to his last dealing job in a tiny crap room it would be under 40k likely.
I made over 100k dealing underground in one year. So 65k is def doable.
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05-13-2017 , 01:07 PM
Underground is different than in a casino. People often tip much higher and you are locked in for many hours at a time vs having 2 or 3 tables then break all the time.
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05-13-2017 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
The guy churns out a vlog a day and even said in a recent vlog during his roadtrip that he didn't think that he had enough material for a vlog for the day so it might suck but what the hell, he'll put it up anyway...and he did put it out. It was extremely boring and uneventful. Only Trooper can find a way to make a roadtrip vlog uneventful.

I think it was a day he was switching hotels and just lazied it up in Indiana.

With this sort of approach to his vlog (compared to someone like Andrew who cares about his brand), do you think he cares if the music matches the tone of the vlog or is even synched up?

He just needs to milk 15K views a day any way he can to pay for life expenses.
I think they are two separate vloggers with different vlogging missions. I think that Trooper's vlog is about trying to capture his daily life, with all the highs and the lows. Neeme is probably working towards some sort of endgame where he doesn't have to play poker as much which requires him putting out a more professional looking product. If Trooper is uninteresting, it is because he is an uninteresting person. Changes in how boring his vlog is shouldn't come from him trying to put on a show for viewers; they should come from changes within himself. If you find him likable, then maybe you root for him to make those changes and get disappointed when he doesn't, but it would be horrible for him to try to be something he's not for the purposes of the vlog.

If people don't enjoy his vlog, maybe it's not for them. Maybe the people who most enjoy Trooper sometimes don't enjoy watching someone like Neeme. That's a good thing. People have different tastes and there should be different vlogs catering to different people. Everyone having the same favorite poker vlogs would be like everyone in the country rooting for the same sports team.
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05-13-2017 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
No way anywhere near 65k dealing poker in vegas.

Maybe a hot female dealing poker in a top room that was very personable and quick but for an average guy dealing and especially something equivalent to his last dealing job in a tiny crap room it would be under 40k likely.
Troop dealt to me last year at Linq during WSOP. Don't underestimate his celebrity. I would not be surprised if he were keeping his own tips that he made 50% more than the average dealer.
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05-13-2017 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
Troop dealt to me last year at Linq during WSOP. Don't underestimate his celebrity. I would not be surprised if he were keeping his own tips that he made 50% more than the average dealer.
He would make a lot more now because he has about 3 times the number of subscribers that he had a year ago. I don't think he even had 10k subscribers yet.

But he acts like he has a ton of haters out there so maybe he wouldn't get many tips after all.
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05-13-2017 , 02:54 PM
I am guessing that haters account for the tip of the iceberg and they don't go to Vegas. A hater would be frozen in fear when they see our hero in person and would be too frighten to sit at his table. Since Troop will never have a W2 job again, the discussion is moot.

Since Troop dwells on this cliche, my basement is nicer than his apartment, I live upstairs, and the only time I wear a helmet is on the track.
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05-13-2017 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
Neeme is probably working towards some sort of endgame where he doesn't have to play poker as much
In other words, Neeme's endgame is to become the Trooper.

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05-13-2017 , 04:08 PM
Does Andrew vlog all of his sessions? If he does, he doesn't play all that much either. He plays much longer sessions than Trooper but he only plays about twice a week except for poker road trips. (Or at least that's how often he records.)
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05-13-2017 , 04:18 PM
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Maybe Andrew paid for the advertisement?
He said they rang him asking to play. Doubt he had to pay for that. Its mutually beneficial if they promote each other. A concept Trooper is too stubborn to understand
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05-13-2017 , 04:31 PM
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OMG, OMG !

A poker vlog with actual poker and hand analysis. How refreshing.

Good find, I think I am going to subscribe.
Aaaaand after watching Vlog 8 I am now unsubscribing from this polititard. I want to watch Poker videos, I couldn't give **** what your political views are.
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05-13-2017 , 04:53 PM
I stopped watching Neeme's vlogs but I thought the newest one with the commentary over his hands was great. At this point I lost interest in each vlogger's individual story and am only interested in the actual poker.
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05-13-2017 , 06:02 PM
i don't think troop is "uninteresting" myself. he's obv drummed up a ton of interest in this thread as a sample size. i think the fact he is handcuffed to making a vlog every single day is what comes across as generally uninteresting, to me anyway. some vids are and most aren't. but i'll be the first one to say that a majority of my days are uninteresting from the outside looking in. i unsubbed because the monotony. but this thread usually clues me in if there's something worth watching. no question about it tho, if you're as polarizing as he is, you're qualified as an interesting person in my book
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05-13-2017 , 08:36 PM
Boski throwing shade at the Trooper in his latest vlog. I love it!!!!

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05-13-2017 , 09:22 PM
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Boski throwing shade at the Trooper in his latest vlog. I love it!!!!

I didn't notice it when I watched it. What did he do?
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05-13-2017 , 09:47 PM
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I didn't notice it when I watched it. What did he do?
During his 9 to 5 pitch, he doesn't bother to mention trooper's vlog

Shade !
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05-13-2017 , 10:06 PM
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I didn't notice it when I watched it. What did he do?
Fast fwd to 10:20
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05-13-2017 , 10:40 PM
Yes PokerKraut's mail time is better than Trooper's.

That said, it is still painful.

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05-13-2017 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Depends how you define diligent and competent. I consider most people to be largely incompetent which would explain the #s. Hell, Trooper could make more than $65k/year dealing poker. Would he be able to set his own hours? No, but we're talking about a guy with no degree, no tangible skillset, and very little drive to succeed.
The fact that he has very little drive to succeed is why he wouldn't hold the job for a full year and wouldn't make the $65K in a year. Or he would ask for a bunch of shifts off when he gets bored of the job and would fall way short of the $65K.

I also don't think he's making that much dealing.
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05-14-2017 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
I think they are two separate vloggers with different vlogging missions. I think that Trooper's vlog is about trying to capture his daily life, with all the highs and the lows. Neeme is probably working towards some sort of endgame where he doesn't have to play poker as much which requires him putting out a more professional looking product. If Trooper is uninteresting, it is because he is an uninteresting person. Changes in how boring his vlog is shouldn't come from him trying to put on a show for viewers; they should come from changes within himself. If you find him likable, then maybe you root for him to make those changes and get disappointed when he doesn't, but it would be horrible for him to try to be something he's not for the purposes of the vlog.

If people don't enjoy his vlog, maybe it's not for them. Maybe the people who most enjoy Trooper sometimes don't enjoy watching someone like Neeme. That's a good thing. People have different tastes and there should be different vlogs catering to different people. Everyone having the same favorite poker vlogs would be like everyone in the country rooting for the same sports team.
I agree with this comment. Although I would see a vlog as something that would motivate me to be better than I am in different facets of my life. That is not the same as being something you are not. He can be himself but better in several areas. For someone to say they eat unhealthy or they are lazy or they are paranoid and that is who they are and changing this is wrong is a horrible mindset for life. If you aren't setting goals in life and striving for those goals, what's the point of living?

Also, everyone in the country should root for the Yankees because they rock! This is not debatable!
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05-14-2017 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
In other words, Neeme's endgame is to become the Trooper.

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Neeme's endgame is such a higher quality of life than the Trooper can every realistically aim for that your statement is laughable. Heck, Neeme has a better quality of life now than Trooper can shoot for in the next few years.

Also, Neeme has more subs than Trooper so it is Trooper who's endgame is to catch up to Neeme.
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05-14-2017 , 12:18 AM
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Neeme's endgame is such a higher quality of life than the Trooper can every realistically aim for that your statement is laughable. Heck, Neeme has a better quality of life now than Trooper can shoot for in the next few years.


Ducks says some silly stuff but this is dead on. Trooper (and many dudes) are getting whomped by Neeme in the life department, and good for him.

Boski also seems to be living a pretty dope life and doing dope things, tho the tournament grind can be brutal. He seems to live a life many single guys would gladly trade up to (especially in the 2+2 community)
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