I'm glad to see Billy Waters in the house.

Please give us a sure thing.

no way it's not you jack, zero chance you'd simp for him like this otherwise, especially if you were doing your own program because then you wouldn't be disagreeing with me

you promote yourself as as a crusher who can help the common man win at sports betting - reality is you've just barely been scraping by until you learned you could make more doing the marketing side of a touting company (everyone knows you have nothing to do with their technical stuff)

multiple times you have given out advice which was fundamentally incorrect to the point that anyone following it would have lost money - which again, would just make you a run of the mill wannabe but in this case it makes you a fraud because your income is now around helping the common man make money in the space - your entire persona is "follow me, I'll make you rich" and then you spew out incorrect advice - you're a clown

pointing out your affiliate marketers who are two people also equally thirsty for fame are taking paychecks from your company in order to promote it as a sign of credibility is just beyond lol


you look like a poorly animated toad, you literally wished death upon your customers when they complained that your overpriced product wasn't working, you pretend to be an expert in every facet and a crusher and you associate with fellow wannabes to help prop yourself and them up as legit

you are a clown jack, and I was not exaggerating that literally everyone I know in this space thinks that about you

go start a thread in the sportsbetting forum asking what they think about you and I'm sure you'll get much more of the same that I'm spitting out here, but you wouldn't do that, you'll stick to twitter and reddit which is full of rubes where you can just put "professional sports bettor" in your bio and tweet inane stuff 24/7 and you'll convince enough that you're actually a real boy

Here's "colin"


yup, that's a genuine endorsement and not a cash grab from someone also trying to be an influencer (even made a documentary about himself lol)

and gina is your direct employee and someone who has done everything under the sun to try to become famous

just really sad you point to two of your own employees as "they take paychecks from" as social proof

jfc jack, you're not even remotely intelligent enough to not embarrass yourself at all times - this is why everyone hates you

and here we go, the holy trinity of marketing


yeah casinos are terrified of people who sit in front of a camera and tell them they are aps, you guys are one degree apart from mikki mase

Rxgamble, Colin and blackjack apprentice are legit to my knowledge, no idea about the captain Jack guy. Rxgamble had the big thing with civil asset forfeiture

Not to blow up anyone’s spot, but it’s not that difficult to make money betting on sports, beating the lines is not magic, it’s not all that difficult. The hard part is getting money down, books limit anyone with a pulse so the difficult part is finding places to bet and having outs

Say whatever about Jack, I don't care, but Dreamer is not Jack, have you looked over the threads he posts in the last year or 2?

maybe, but he's definitely friends with the guy if he's able to put on the blinders and simp the way he's doing for him in the thread

What does any of this have to do with poker vlogs?

Because Brad Owen had an affiliate code for a sports betting site.

The people want sardines and room temperature mayo on a bleak highway in Nebraska with some random 1982 baseball stats!!

Please, let's get back to this threads beloved hero, El Diesel.

Baseball season is here. I'm hoping to get some fun John Olerud or Mackey Sasser trivia.

John Olerud's first game in the minor leagues was at age 36

No takes on Rice being open to being named a WPT Ambassador? Would require him to play online poker, which is not his favorite thing

I think he should do it if the money is right, wpt would have to give him a percent of the company I bet to make it worth his while

let's not

Yeah then he would perhaps be willing to consider it. Just like he admitted he would be willing to consider a head coaching position for an NFL side. Meanwhile back in reality land it would be a move up for him to become a rest room cleaner earning minimum wage and zero tips.

Up until this, I held you in high esteem. You had me fooled for a long time. You're a goofball, get out of your mom's basement!

I did suspect you might be a goofball by keeping such close track of Trooper's results so closely. My suspicisions were correct: you gotta to be a real weirdo to do that tracking. No wonder you have no clue about paragraphing. Get a life dude! That avatar is really pathetic as well.

Is sqiud face a phony too? Say it ain't so!

The thing is, with the Trooper not playing poker anymore you are totally pointless.

So angry

while i wouldn't do what he specifically advocated for a variety of reasons, he is directionally correct in explaining what is called the top down approach to sports betting - which indeed is profitable if done correctly where you simply treat it as a financial market

imagine if you were going to buy stocks that could only be held for a single day of trading and then would be sold no matter what at the end of the day

however, there were 20 different stock exchanges that all had slightly different prices and while they would all sell automatically at a consensus price, your entry price could differ from exchange to exchange - you'd obviously do significantly always going to the cheapest exchange, even if the stocks you were buying were dogs



you don't really need to be smart to succeed at sports betting - it's clear that I think jack is an idiot while also not doubting that he does make a living off it and I'm sure you'll all agree that I'm a first class dumbass as well

but you do need to have an autistic obsession with grinding out micro edges which in the aggregate should lead to positive ROI in the long run - the kind of person who is going log trooper's wins and losses for his entire career has exactly the kind of autistic obsession traits you need to succeed at it

Not all markets are super efficient, any winning dfs player is a winning sports bettor I imagine.

Will do you one better, pull up spank odds, open bet mgm, draft kings, espn bet. When you see bookmaker/circa/fanduel move a line and can bet the old line at mgm Dk or espn bet, or hard rock or points bet or one of these BS small time books, bet the stale line if it moved enough with injury news or someone making a bet that makes bookmakers move lines and you can tail that you will be a winner. Gotta figure out pump fakes and that could stop you, also gotta only bet the ones that move enough so might take a while to figure out that math. For football a move from 1 to 2 means less than 2 to 3 or 2.5 to 3 etc. There’s also arbitrages daily in a variety of markets that anyone can bet if they look hard enough. Lastly open up bet365 who updates live lines before others, pull up draft kings or espn bet, when bet365 has a big move on the live line bet the stale line at Dk or espn bet. Have to be very quick with this one though, you have literally like 1 or 2 seconds. Could also just tail people on action network who use advanced analytics to make bets like bike king

Congratulations you’re a professional bettor now and don’t even need a model.

I didn’t say anyone was a fraud, I said rx gamble and Colin from BJA are legit people as far as I knew. I don’t know captain Jack or even know who he is really so I said I don’t know about him. I imagine squid face is legit but I only know him from here, I don’t have intimate knowledge of any of these people except I knew one of Colin’s partners years ago

It’s not that hard to beat sports betting with models or without, the trouble is being limited and getting money down. At highest levels people have to do all sorts of nonsense to keep accounts open, bet losers, make square bets, bet on hundreds or even thousands of different accounts, billy walters doesn’t just walk up to the window at bellagio and place a bet for a million bucks on the Dallas cowboys, they won’t take his action.

Can think what you want, I live a great life that is a pipe dream to most people in gambling. The avatar stays

Clearly he hasn't.

I suggested he do some research. Its ironic that anyone who posted in the early days of BJ21 and Sharp sports betting would know who we are and that we are totally different people.

Firstly I'm from the UK so the assertion that I am Cap Jack is a bit strange and bizarre.

Stanford Wong wrote a book in 2005 called Wong on Dice, which was his experimentation/examination into Dice control.

If you look on page 110 there are quotes by Captain Jack.

If you look at pages 104 and 108 there are quotes by me......

D.