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03-31-2024 , 02:04 PM
I must agree that the fact that Diesel is not a losing poker player puts him in a higher tier than the cast majority of poker players.

however, that doesn't make him a better player. The vast majority of poker players have other significant streams of income and play as a hobby where variance (+/-) is okay. playing full time for +/- $8/h (including comps) is a waste of time.
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03-31-2024 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
Over qualified to be NFL head coach since he never played the game.
He doesn't want to be head coach. He wants to be the offensive coordinator for the NFL or a D1 college program.

But, as usual, the powers that be overlook the best possible candidate, Rice, and select inferiors merely because they have actual experience, totally ignoring the vast game theory knowledge Rice could bring to the game.

Can't make this stuff up.
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03-31-2024 , 02:26 PM
Diesel is Jonah hill in Moneyball. Any team in any sport would crush with his GTO mind at work.
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03-31-2024 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Langdon
feels like we are recycling the same lines about Diesel constantly.

I think we are all in agreement. is the constant repetition necessary
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!
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03-31-2024 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Langdon
I am not exactly sure about everything but here's what I have figured out... I found that they have a live stream of the game and it's been going several times a week for over a year. and it's called the Absolute Nuts game. Jonathan holds the camera. David has been doing a vlog of the games but not until recently (just a few episodes). he seems to call himself AbsoluteNuts but I think that's more the title of the regular game. they have the same core of players along with guests. the girl Megan is a regular and she seems to whup them every game. probably gets the thumbnail because of her regular seat in relation to the camera. they have been playing at both Tropicana and Resorts World. I'm not familiar with any other live games from Vegas that get streamed or recorded (outside of the PokerGo studio) so that's pretty cool.

5/5 game where most pots end up $1000+?
I watched their stream for a bit last night. they follow along with the comments in YouTube. the guy with the camera shows his cards every hand so it seems like it would be pretty easy for the others to know what he has from the comments. but from the vlogs he seems to be pretty successful most nights.
RIP Tropicana.
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03-31-2024 , 03:23 PM
re: absolute nuts

yeah but like are they advertising to grow their game and attract players, trying to get youtube monies, become poker famous?

i just don't understand what they are doing or why or who is even behind it

but those games look good

Last edited by rickroll; 03-31-2024 at 03:49 PM.
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03-31-2024 , 03:49 PM
Well I asked the question...

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03-31-2024 , 04:27 PM
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03-31-2024 , 04:30 PM


2022 video he talks about his dividend income.

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03-31-2024 , 04:37 PM
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03-31-2024 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Langdon
please explain "for a living"
seems like he is dying quickly and miserably
By "making a living", that is what he does from day to day to provide the majority of his capital & substance.

Now for most people on this board, it would not be an acceptable amount. We are talking about RICE though, he has to work with what he has.

Do you seriously think that RICE could keep a long term 9-5 job? Could he pass a bar exam? Can he pass character & fitness? Has he been filing tax returns from being a pro poker player all these years? I took a look at BarBri rates, and the MINIMUM amount is like $2k. If you want in person instruction at a cram class, it is like $4k!

Could he even get hired to do anything other than unloading trucks or working the fryolator? RICE has been out of the labor pool for a number of years now, what type of professional organization is going to think that years of grinding 1/2 poker is good experience? RICE is also in a difficult spot because of his YouTubes! What would a potential employer think of if they saw those?

RICE has chosen his path in life, now he HAS to make it work. He has been able to do it so far, albeit at a minimal level.

Unfortunately, while RICE is able to make it now...I don't know if that will the case in the future. You can only cut costs so much. RICE has got to be near the limit of those cuts.

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion, that here in Detroit, 1/2 is rapidly becoming unprofitable. It does not matter WHAT your skill & tightness level is, how do you consistently beat a short stacked 1/2 game with $6+$2 rake? Sure, you can get lucky now & again...but you can't depend on luck long term.
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03-31-2024 , 06:11 PM
If only Diesel had the time and intelligence to study the game, he could actually make some money.
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03-31-2024 , 07:09 PM
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That comment sums it up.

By his own admission he gave the results for all the years when it suited him. But now when last year and this year he has been getting his ass handed to him all of a sudden he says results are not the the focus of his channel.

I think anyone ITT estimating his poker earnings last year has been overly generous. His expenses would be 12k for the year (at least 6 weeks he lived for free with his parents.)

His poker earnings last year would have been roughly 6k. If his poker earnings covered more than half of his expenses then you can bet Rice would have said that poker covered "most" of his expenses. And yes that's including comps/promos which is probably the only thing which saved him from a losing year.

6k earned over 1500 hours is $4 per hour. But it's actually at least 2000+ hours because he doesn't count time away from the table or time spent changing tables/rooms.
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03-31-2024 , 07:25 PM
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Omg I made it into a YouTube video! Rice addressed me query at length!

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I just got blocked after engaging him in the comments. I thought he liked debating stuff? I guess not when it comes to his poker life being more of a hobby than a money making job.
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03-31-2024 , 07:44 PM
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I think you are having a very bad read,and dont know people very well if you honestly think Diesel comes off as genuinely happy with his life.

My impression is that he is just doing everything he can to make it seem that way, its this massive way of coping with his life being where it is. This is pretty common FWIW from people that is underperforming vastly in life, or is a loser and is unhappy/frustrated with where they are in life. The reality is too painful to deal with, so they do everything they can to take on a mask and try to make everyone think they are perfectly happy.

Also i disagree that he doesent look autistic. Its pretty easy to notice he is on the spectrum when you have seen multiple videos of him and study his demina,eyes,face mimicks,the nervous/fake laugh he always pulls off when he thinks he is "crushing" someone with his intricate so called arguments++.
I'm replying to you instead of the troll you quoted. All he is looking for with his absurd assertions is to get a reaction out of people. I hate giving trolls like him any air time.

If Diesel appears happy it's only by virtue of his extreme denial and delusion about the reality of his situation.

Diesel doesn't look any less autistic to me than TBC. He's just a younger version. In 25 years let's see what Diesel is looking like. Let's just say his lifestyle is not conducive to aging well. If Diesel is still doing what he is doing now by the time he is in his mid to late 50s I'll be shocked if he looks any better than TBC.

What a joke to say that Rice must be a good dude just because H&R is his friend. Even low lifes and scumbags have friends. Tight asses and selfish people have friends too. They don't usually have a lot of friends vying for their time but they will still have one or two friends at least.

H&R seems like the type who doesn't care that Rice is constantly freerolling him. He probably makes in a good week what Rice makes in a year and he also seems like a generous guy. Probably doesn't have a lot of other friends either as he seems quite introverted. But I certainly wouldn't take his putting up with Diesel as a ringing endorsement. They also hang out only a few times a year. It's a good thing because I'd say if it was any more than that it wouldn't be so easy for H&R to put up with.
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03-31-2024 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
I think you are having a very bad read,and dont know people very well if you honestly think Diesel comes off as genuinely happy with his life.

My impression is that he is just doing everything he can to make it seem that way, its this massive way of coping with his life being where it is. This is pretty common FWIW from people that is underperforming vastly in life, or is a loser and is unhappy/frustrated with where they are in life. The reality is too painful to deal with, so they do everything they can to take on a mask and try to make everyone think they are perfectly happy.

Also i disagree that he doesent look autistic. Its pretty easy to notice he is on the spectrum when you have seen multiple videos of him and study his demina,eyes,face mimicks,the nervous/fake laugh he always pulls off when he thinks he is "crushing" someone with his intricate so called arguments++.

This. Dude is ****ing miserable and will never say it out loud. He is posing for the camera just like his idol used to pose about being some kind of tough guy.

There are millions of folks with autism/on the spectrum that do 100x what that guy does. He’s a grown ass man and can make big boy decisions for himself and the result is a shitty YouTube channel that he’s turning into his own personal echo chamber.

Just. Like. His. Idol.

His real life goal is to be Hamster 2.0. We’ve already seen how that story goes.
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03-31-2024 , 09:10 PM
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re: absolute nuts

yeah but like are they advertising to grow their game and attract players, trying to get youtube monies, become poker famous?

i just don't understand what they are doing or why or who is even behind it

but those games look good
the vlogs only get like 30 comments and the lives only had like 100-400 viewers at a time which for regular over a year seems like they are not putting much effort into growing
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03-31-2024 , 11:00 PM
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Diesel has no shot at a poker dealer. It's one thing when you have a dealer that is a stickler for the rules. It's another when Diesel is gonna run his games how he thinks it should run and not what is standard according to Robert's Rules of Poker.

Here's an example from today's vlog. Someone bets $10, someone tosses in three red chips, at Diesel's table that's a raise to $20, period, end of story. Grab one too many cause the chips are worn or sticky? Too bad! It's a raise to $20, sir.

At Diesel's table, there's no asking what Player B wants to do, call $10 or raise to $20. Nope, it's a raise to $20 all day. Diesel doesn't need no stinking floor. He knows the rules as he thinks it should be.

The whole table will be walking 15 minutes into his down guaranteed.

Side note since I was quoting an NFL head coach coincidentally, if Diesel wasn't a poker player, one job he would consider doing is an NFL head coach or OC. He kinda tried but it seems people want to hire coaches that played high level football and not someone like Diesel who could do the job better even if the other guy was terrible at coaching. Diesel's skills getting snubbed again, this time it's his knowledge of game theory for football. Unreal how he's the best candidate again and no one wants to hire him. Weird.


Rice would be "willing" to be Head Coach or Offensive Coordinator for an NFL or D1 college team. The hubris on this guy is out of this world. He wouldn't be considered to be the assistant to the waterboy, however he's talking like he would be in the position to turn down a coaching gig!

The first thing he has ever said that I agree with is that if a player throws in multiple chips and it covers at least 150% of the initial bet/raise then it should be treated as a raise/re-raise. I actually agree with him that there should be no grey area on that one. That's obviously only for a public game in a casino. Private/Home games can make their own rules that everyone is comfortable with.
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03-31-2024 , 11:20 PM
Diesel talking as if he is in a position to actually turn down an NFL head coaching job is the absolute ultimate in grandiose delusion. We are talking about a 1000x on his current poker earnings. His level of delusion is approaching warp speed at an alarming rate.
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04-01-2024 , 12:37 AM
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"But when HCs do something I thought of 5 years earlier, it seems like they need me."

~~RICE - 03/31/2024
Does Andy Reid know about this guy?

Currently the New Orleans Saints, Los Angeles Chargers, Washington Commanders and the Seattle Seahawks have offensive coordinator openings.

Will these teams pick inferior candidates and once again pass over RICE the best candidate for the job?
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04-01-2024 , 01:43 AM
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Rice would be "willing" to be Head Coach or Offensive Coordinator for an NFL or D1 college team. The hubris on this guy is out of this world. He wouldn't be considered to be the assistant to the waterboy, however he's talking like he would be in the position to turn down a coaching gig!

The first thing he has ever said that I agree with is that if a player throws in multiple chips and it covers at least 150% of the initial bet/raise then it should be treated as a raise/re-raise. I actually agree with him that there should be no grey area on that one. That's obviously only for a public game in a casino. Private/Home games can make their own rules that everyone is comfortable with.
It's 99 percent a mistake when this happens. The supervisor has the right to do what's in the best interest of the game. The dealer should snap clarify the action provided nobody has acted on it.

Of course an insufferable nit bag like Rice would have the rule book out and likely be the only one at the table who cares about this being enforced.
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04-01-2024 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
The old men at The Orleans aren't going to put up with El Diesel's ****. They will start yelling at him and he will lose it and have nowhere to run to, as he will be stuck at the table.

Also, he basically said he will dish it out to them if they are giving him ****. So that would be fun also.
"A lot of people in the world hate me". The players are customers. Piss too many of them off and he won't be dealing for long.
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04-01-2024 , 12:08 PM
In his latest installment Rice shows how long it takes him to make a 'poker' video and inadvertently reveals that he edits videos in a manner you would expect a Grandma who knows very little about tech. I'm sure he thinks that he is using cutting edge software and is one of the best video editors of all time

https://youtu.be/oE0j2Bm6Jps?si=sAXOpXH5PrGsVGCG
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04-01-2024 , 02:12 PM
Rice is making Troop look good.
  • T changes when something isn't working.
  • Is big on the music in his videos.
  • Actually includes conversations.
  • Knows at least one woman.
  • Is an excellent dealer.
  • Has some cred in the vloging universe.
  • Has a permanent address.
  • Visits and does not move in with his mother during the holidays.
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04-01-2024 , 02:23 PM
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it's pretty well established, I don't know a single professional bettor that respects the guy - he's the butt of many jokes in the space

last year he embarrassed himself tremendously advocating betting -6 teasers at -120 or something like that and had not accounted for ties = losses

he does stuff like that quite often in his never ending quest for clout and relevance, he'll post about something he doesn't really quite know or understand as if he's an expert and guiding others along the way and in reality he's giving out bad info

again, it's not a big deal if you don't know the nuance of teaser rules and why betting -6 is a terrible proposition - I can fill the suez canal with things I don't understand in the sports betting place to a high level - the difference is I don't go out and pretend I am expert in that stuff - and most importantly, when this happened, he wasn't like "oh I learned something new" but instead just started insulting those who corrected them and calling them haters etc

he's also widely known as a douche in general, I've never met him in person but know a dozen people who have and not one had anything nice to say about the guy, you can see more evidence of this from his repeated blowups where he screamed and yelled at his own customers on discord to the point where unabated had to ask him to take a leave of absence from the company

he regularly props himself up as a big deal in various fields, which at best is an exaggeration and at worst outright lies - I don't doubt that he's made a living in the space, but it's been far less glamorous than how he promotes it and mostly via picking off bad lines whereas he pretends it comes from deep modeling insight

he also looks like a poorly animated toad, but that's more a fun fact than anything to do with him being a douche and a fraud


primarily, if he was as big a deal as he projects, he wouldn't be tweeting 24/7 chasing clout for the past 2 decades but instead quietly making piles of cash anonymously



importantly, in no way shape nor form was calling him a fraud a hot take and it's impossible to know about him and not know he's a fraud so now I deeply suspect you are that toad like guy named jack
Well you would be 100% incorrect about that. You might want to do a bit more research as you can see by my join date I have been around the AP/ Sports betting scene for over 25 years.

I see lots of issue by you with his personality which is perfectly fine but when you use the word fraud it suggests something sinister/shady or illegal.

Do you think people like Gina or Colin would associate with him if they thought he was shady or fraudulent?

And FWIW Sports betting is hard. Like most AP activities there is much secrecy around the latest and greatest stuff. Things are constantly changing. Those who have hit the bonus/account game hard over the past few years have done very well. There are numerous other ways to win that are not public for obvious reasons.
Just like poker, most people who try to win at sports betting will fail for numerous reasons.
Just to make this clear I am not a member of his website as I have my own programs developed in house.

D.
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