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06-28-2023 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Andrew got 5th for almost 54k in that tournament last night.
Not bad, first Boski binking 49k and now Neeme 54K. My fav vloggers is doing it! Neeme will always be the GOAT vlogger for me. His production quality and editing early on (before anyone else) was very impressive.
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06-28-2023 , 09:56 AM
Oh, sorry, Vibes brother Andrew, not Neeme.

Neeme got 94th for 2k.
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06-28-2023 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Oh, sorry, Vibes brother Andrew, not Neeme.

Neeme got 94th for 2k.
Aha, i see. Andrew Moreno is a very likeable guy too. He seem to be crushing tournaments over the past few years man.
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06-28-2023 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Same_again
10k would be about $30 a day so surely not more than that! My guess would be 6k. I don't live in USA though so not sure the exact prices he's paying!

Conspicuous by its absence in El Diesel's latest rainman esque listing of numbers was his poker winnings.... he mentioned it being a difficult year but said he is 'obviously in the black' but must be a pretty low amount
Yeah, it’s been a difficult year for Diesel because he doesn’t study and just puts up middling hours like it’s a hourly job without any focus, he even admits to running over to other tables while playing if there is drama or a big pot. Those just aren’t the qualities of solid winners and just bizarre in general.

We all know he can’t be a dealer, he doesn’t have the technical or social skills to keep the job, he couldn’t even keep that UPS job, but could Diesel become a prop player? He would make more money for sure and more stability. Last I heard even small California rooms including lake Elsinore have props. It also gives him the option to be a limit Holdem prop in LA, and with how bad he is at nlhe, he might like limit better.
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06-28-2023 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lionelhuttz
Yeah, it’s been a difficult year for Diesel because he doesn’t study and just puts up middling hours like it’s a hourly job without any focus, he even admits to running over to other tables while playing if there is drama or a big pot. Those just aren’t the qualities of solid winners and just bizarre in general.

We all know he can’t be a dealer, he doesn’t have the technical or social skills to keep the job, he couldn’t even keep that UPS job, but could Diesel become a prop player? He would make more money for sure and more stability. Last I heard even small California rooms including lake Elsinore have props. It also gives him the option to be a limit Holdem prop in LA, and with how bad he is at nlhe, he might like limit better.
Isnt the point of a prop player to start games? They need people to fill the 2-5 game, or a plo game etc, Diesel would not be comfortable with that. At the very least, he would have to play short-handed a lot. He strikes me as a guy who would snap call the floor over to complain if theres a seat open in his game and a list. Nits like him always prefer 9 handed games and no less.
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06-28-2023 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Horsey McHorseface
Isnt the point of a prop player to start games? They need people to fill the 2-5 game, or a plo game etc, Diesel would not be comfortable with that. At the very least, he would have to play short-handed a lot. He strikes me as a guy who would snap call the floor over to complain if theres a seat open in his game and a list. Nits like him always prefer 9 handed games and no less.
Spot on. Also you gave me a good laugh because i started thinking about how nits instacalls the floor over in the second a seat opens up.
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06-28-2023 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
I am just curious basically,but how much do we think our hero uses on coffee drinks/Starbucks on the strip throughout a year?

We have to be talking several thousand dollars?
I have to guess somewhere in the $3k

Trooper could go for diamond plus at Caesar’s by putting time in at their poker room and be eligible for the 4 free drink vouchers at Starbucks. Planet Hollywood has a diamond line at their Starbucks so it would be no problem to go right through.
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06-28-2023 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Nbuc84
I have to guess somewhere in the $3k



Trooper could go for diamond plus at Caesar’s by putting time in at their poker room and be eligible for the 4 free drink vouchers at Starbucks. Planet Hollywood has a diamond line at their Starbucks so it would be no problem to go right through.
I would guess somewhere around the 5k ballpark. Especially the years he is on the strip 6 or even 7 days of the week.
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06-28-2023 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lionelhuttz
Yeah, it’s been a difficult year for Diesel because he doesn’t study and just puts up middling hours like it’s a hourly job without any focus, he even admits to running over to other tables while playing if there is drama or a big pot. Those just aren’t the qualities of solid winners and just bizarre in general.

We all know he can’t be a dealer, he doesn’t have the technical or social skills to keep the job, he couldn’t even keep that UPS job, but could Diesel become a prop player? He would make more money for sure and more stability. Last I heard even small California rooms including lake Elsinore have props. It also gives him the option to be a limit Holdem prop in LA, and with how bad he is at nlhe, he might like limit better.
Everyone has different types of games they do better in but it's amazing he's been playing for so long and games with terrible players calling rasies with all kinds of garbage baffle him.

I mean truthfully someone could go all in preflop 20 hands in a row and on the 21st El Diesel would fold 99 with one player left behind him bc the guy behind him could have a higher pair and the guy shoving could have an overcard.
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06-28-2023 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Horsey McHorseface
Isnt the point of a prop player to start games? They need people to fill the 2-5 game, or a plo game etc, Diesel would not be comfortable with that. At the very least, he would have to play short-handed a lot. He strikes me as a guy who would snap call the floor over to complain if theres a seat open in his game and a list. Nits like him always prefer 9 handed games and no less.
Yea he didn't like the 7 handed covid games
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06-28-2023 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
I would guess somewhere around the 5k ballpark. Especially the years he is on the strip 6 or even 7 days of the week.
I forgot to realize that troop sometimes buys 2 or 3 coffees a day and the fact that Starbucks became more expensive so I do see 6k a year. Makes my diamond plus plan for troop much more positive EV.
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06-28-2023 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Nbuc84
I forgot to realize that troop sometimes buys 2 or 3 coffees a day and the fact that Starbucks became more expensive so I do see 6k a year. Makes my diamond plus plan for troop much more positive EV.

Except that he will lose 15k in poker in the process of getting the hours for a diamond card. Negative EV.
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06-28-2023 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DividedWeFall
Except that he will lose 15k in poker in the process of getting the hours for a diamond card. Negative EV.
As long as he gets stuck in the nitfested games on the weekday morning/afternoon he might have a chance to be in the black with the Starbucks trade off.

Last edited by Nbuc84; 06-28-2023 at 01:19 PM.
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06-28-2023 , 01:52 PM
5 loyal subscribers sending a $20 gift card/month is roughly 25 Grande black coffees from starbucks. Add another 6-10 coffees earned in comp hours, and he's probably spending way less than you think. I'll take the under $1k/year on out of pocket, which is a much cheaper vice than smoking cigarettes, weed, alcohol, sex workers, and the pits.


I probably spend more a year, out of pocket, at Starbucks than Trooper does.
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06-28-2023 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Everyone has different types of games they do better in but it's amazing he's been playing for so long and games with terrible players calling rasies with all kinds of garbage baffle him.

I mean truthfully someone could go all in preflop 20 hands in a row and on the 21st El Diesel would fold 99 with one player left behind him bc the guy behind him could have a higher pair and the guy shoving could have an overcard.
Lol so true.

I don’t think Diesel would make a good prop but it seems like he is crashing and burning right now and we already know he lives hand to mouth with his poker winnings. It could be a positive move to shift his mindset from I have to cbet the flop at 90% to steal money for my sausage dinner and pay for laundry when airbnbs don’t let me wash every piece of clothing I own in a day — to breaking even in short/bad/late night/morning games and getting paid a living wage. He would probably make more money if the prop jobs still pay like $40ish an hour for small stakes and $80 for the mid/high stakes, I don’t know what the prop player demand is right now. He would also definitely get better at poker as a prop and improve his social life.
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06-28-2023 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
5 loyal subscribers sending a $20 gift card/month is roughly 25 Grande black coffees from starbucks. Add another 6-10 coffees earned in comp hours, and he's probably spending way less than you think. I'll take the under $1k/year on out of pocket, which is a much cheaper vice than smoking cigarettes, weed, alcohol, sex workers, and the pits.


I probably spend more a year, out of pocket, at Starbucks than Trooper does.
Maybe you are correct, but that wasnt my main question to begin with. I was wondering how much he spends gross on Starbucks/coffee related drinks on the strip, not were the funds is coming from.

If we are talking money directly out of his own pocket i would guess around 1K myself, at least below 2K.
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06-28-2023 , 02:17 PM
In today's video, El D mentioned he hasn't been making his hours goals because he has been focusing on developing other revenue streams. Any guesses what these might be?

Website / podcast?
Rice sales?
Hat sales?
Donating blood / sperm?
Uber?
Jerking off on OnlyFans?
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06-28-2023 , 02:27 PM
Collecting bottles and cans for recycling deposits
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06-28-2023 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Man Coffee
In today's video, El D mentioned he hasn't been making his hours goals because he has been focusing on developing other revenue streams. Any guesses what these might be?

Website / podcast?
Rice sales?
Hat sales?
Donating blood / sperm?
Uber?
Jerking off on OnlyFans?
Lol, ricesales would be fantastic. Riceisaspoonfood approved rice available for purchase, what could go wrong?
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06-28-2023 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Man Coffee
In today's video, El D mentioned he hasn't been making his hours goals because he has been focusing on developing other revenue streams. Any guesses what these might be?

Website / podcast?
Rice sales?
Hat sales?
Donating blood / sperm?
Uber?
Jerking off on OnlyFans?
He will go to Oakland A’s games on bobble head nights. Buy 10 cheap tickets, go through the line 10 times for 10 bobble heads and then sell the bobble heads on eBay.
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06-28-2023 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thisgameweplay
You're math is terrible lol. Would need to be 1.25 markup for a freeroll
Look up the definition of virtual.

T can afford $400 to avoid looking like a complete grifter.
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06-28-2023 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
I am just curious basically,but how much do we think our hero uses on coffee drinks/Starbucks on the strip throughout a year?

We have to be talking several thousand dollars?
He could use the comps for decent meals but doesn't eat tomatoes (only ketchup).
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06-28-2023 , 03:05 PM
T's peak March 21, 2022:

$ 400 No Limit Hold'em - Double Stack (Ring Event 4)
World Series of Poker Circuit - WSOPC Bally's Las Vegas, Las Vegas 3rd $ 7,869

Why isn't he playing four $400s instead of one $1,500 with a larger field and more stress?

Multiple tournaments might get him in shape.
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06-28-2023 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Lol, ricesales would be fantastic. Riceisaspoonfood approved rice available for purchase, what could go wrong?
I could see Rice gaining traction in a meal prep service for poker players. He could deliver timeless rice cooker recipes, infused with the rich, flavorful, off-white sink water from the Rio.

They would be a fraction of the price of strip meals, and he could hand deliver them to the poker rooms.

He once played in 10 poker rooms in a day in Vegas. Imagine how many deals he could deliver to hungry grinders looking for a cheaper, healthier alternative?

The branding is there. "Spoonfood - Calorie rich meals for practical grinder".
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06-28-2023 , 03:11 PM
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Look up the definition of virtual.



T can afford $400 to avoid looking like a complete grifter.
Can he though?
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