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06-12-2023 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvDaVlogs
With trooper specifically i believe him charging markup is straight up scamming. His audience is filled with rubes, and he puts forward a narrative that he is an expert player, expert at reading body language, etc. To outside people, which make up like 90% of troopers audience i imagine, he seems like a professional poker player, which he is not, nor is he close to being one. Its a scam when he says things like "im charging markup because it has to be worth it to me" when his time is worthless to the point where he delivers items from his store instead of using delivery services like people and companies that do value their time. Also hes getting an incredible opportunity from selling this action already in that he cant afford to play wsop events over $300 or whatever it is, hed never be able to afford to play the main event itd take up like half of his BR. It is a situation probably like mike matusow where he believes hes a winning player, if he just had more time hed be further along in poker, if just for this thing or that thing hed be at x. But the truth is he isnt a winning player in tournaments, hes a very very slightly winning 1-2 player and there arent scenarios in life where hes anything more in terms of a poker player, and its just a delusion that if he wasnt making a vlog hed be further along. Without the vlog hed be at maggianos or whatever chain restaurant or dealing gig, and would never ever make it as a gambler.
Totally agree. Trooper is complete clown regarding the things you mention here.
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06-12-2023 , 06:14 PM
T79's got another package... 3400?
Nice
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06-12-2023 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lionelhuttz
You missed the second paragraph. I think at this point Trooper is straight scamming people that are buying pieces of him...

This isn’t a “the mark up is too high” debate or he isn’t good at tournaments he should not sell — He is just stealing money.
Thankfully, the world doesn't see things thru the same cynical eyes of some like yourself that seem to think they have 'it all figured out'.

I feel, and I know I am right, that T trades some of that 'good will' he cultivates with his videos and his personal perspectives for a little karma during these short periods of tournaments... and I don't really see that as 'scamming' or in any way 'ponzi'ish'. I see it as a sign of hope and goodwill.

what can I say, I am a 'glass is half full' kind of person and it's painfully obvious that you are a 'the glass is completely empty' kind of person.

I was serious when I said I made a personal offer to stake Rice for the wsop... and thusly, helping out T79 with his dream is also high on my list... and there's nothing that you can possibly think of that would convince me of otherwise.

Last edited by MSchu18; 06-12-2023 at 06:30 PM.
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06-12-2023 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
what does being "good enough" have to do with anything? why would he not try to get the maximum amount the market is willing to pay? if my neighbors are selling their houses for 500k it would be pretty dumb for me to sell mine for 400k and leave money on the table for no reason.



jealously, they think they should also be entitled to freeroll the main just because they are better at poker than pman. without considering that pman is the one taking the risks by putting his face out on camera for the entire world to see, providing entertainment and providing value in other ways while they are sitting anonymous behind their screens thinking they deserve the same rewards without taking any of the same risks.
I think it's fine as long as people are honest.
If someone wants to sweat trooper etc and trooper isn't claiming to be some crusher it's fine.

When Matusow charges absurd makeup acting like he's still some super pro when he was washed up 15 years ago or well Helmuth charges crazy markup in high rollers he's a dog in they're being intentionally deceptive about his edge.

If Pman says I'm probably neutrally ev but if you want a sweat you can buy a piece of me that's fine.

However I've asked multiple people selling action to a ton of events who present themselves as pros what their ROI is the last 5-10 years in live tournaments they won't answer and there's something seriously wrong with that.
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06-12-2023 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother Mucker
I guess he was due. Seemed like he was spewing thousands in buy-ins every vlog going back awhile. Is he backed or is that 100% his money?
He said he bricked the $100,000 Vietnam ACR he won. All he earned was a tax bill.
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06-12-2023 , 08:36 PM
What bet doesn't have an implied markup?

Betting horses, football, roulette, etc.
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06-12-2023 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
T79's got another package... 3400?
Nice
3 Way WSOP Package
WSOP Event #39: $1,500 Monster Stack on June 17th, WSOP Event #53: $1,500 Millionaire Maker on June 24th, WSOP Event #70: $400 Colossus on July 1st.

0 markup
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06-12-2023 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
He said he bricked the $100,000 Vietnam ACR he won. All he earned was a tax bill.
why would he have a tax bill if he bricked?
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06-12-2023 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvDaVlogs
With trooper specifically i believe him charging markup is straight up scamming. His audience is filled with rubes, and he puts forward a narrative that he is an expert player, expert at reading body language, etc. To outside people, which make up like 90% of troopers audience i imagine, he seems like a professional poker player, which he is not, nor is he close to being one. Its a scam when he says things like "im charging markup because it has to be worth it to me" when his time is worthless to the point where he delivers items from his store instead of using delivery services like people and companies that do value their time. Also hes getting an incredible opportunity from selling this action already in that he cant afford to play wsop events over $300 or whatever it is, hed never be able to afford to play the main event itd take up like half of his BR. It is a situation probably like mike matusow where he believes hes a winning player, if he just had more time hed be further along in poker, if just for this thing or that thing hed be at x. But the truth is he isnt a winning player in tournaments, hes a very very slightly winning 1-2 player and there arent scenarios in life where hes anything more in terms of a poker player, and its just a delusion that if he wasnt making a vlog hed be further along. Without the vlog hed be at maggianos or whatever chain restaurant or dealing gig, and would never ever make it as a gambler.
No he wouldn't. He'd be min-buying at 1/2 and 1/3 games using profits from his merch and her lollipops to follow his dream because he ain't ever gonna work for the man.
The worst of it is that he thinks he has to keep going because he's some kind of OG and that commands/deserves respect. Fact is that the community has no idea who he is, or cares to know.

I know Tim still reads 2+2 so I say directly "No one cares about this OG crap other than you. It's OK to give up now. In fact, you probably should. The 683 people who've watched your "podcast" in the last 12 days won't even notice if you just tuck your tail between your legs, admit defeat and go back to Florida or wherever you're from. You'll probably have a happier life if you do."
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06-12-2023 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
Thankfully, the world doesn't see things thru the same cynical eyes of some like yourself that seem to think they have 'it all figured out'.

I feel, and I know I am right, that T trades some of that 'good will' he cultivates with his videos and his personal perspectives for a little karma during these short periods of tournaments... and I don't really see that as 'scamming' or in any way 'ponzi'ish'. I see it as a sign of hope and goodwill.

what can I say, I am a 'glass is half full' kind of person and it's painfully obvious that you are a 'the glass is completely empty' kind of person.

I was serious when I said I made a personal offer to stake Rice for the wsop... and thusly, helping out T79 with his dream is also high on my list... and there's nothing that you can possibly think of that would convince me of otherwise.
Thankfully, the WSOP does, that’s why they changed the rules around satellite and lammers so people like him can’t cheat players and is why Trooper has resorted to what he is doing now.

I like Trooper videos but I draw the line when he begins to outright scam people.

Do you think what Mike Postle did was right because he needed to feed his daughter or that he got goodwill for being entertaining people on stream? That makes it ethical to rob, cheat, and steal?

Government assistance and private charities exist for a reason. If Trooper started a gofundme he could raise a ton funds immediately. Something tells me the way Trooper talks about other people down on their luck, he would never do this.

You seem to realize Trooper is scamming and are ok with it. That’s fine if you want to stake trooper or buy Rice into 5/10nl games at the Wynn because he would never play WSOP tournaments. You realize they aren’t good and you want to donate to the dream, good for you, I would never try to convince you otherwise, spend your money how you want.

Like LDV said many of the other people buying Trooper’s action do not know this and if you told them, then gave the option to get their money back because Trooper punted and/or oversold they would snap take their money back.
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06-12-2023 , 09:37 PM
What did trooper do with the lammers that was a scam?
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06-13-2023 , 12:11 AM
I think he may be referring to trooper colluding with his friend Harry in them?

Or maybe is referring to the wsop sng system is supposed to be a satellite system, meaning you win the sng, you use those chips for buy ins for tournaments. it turned into people playing sngs, cashing, then selling the lammers to people in line, which is why they were ultimately shut down after some pressure by some sort of officials as i understand it.

So did trooper say his results in his latest one? I couldnt find it but saw someone in the comments say congrats on booking another win?
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06-13-2023 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasKK
he must have gotten unbelievable amounts of attention as a kid, like mind-blowing, psychologically questionable amounts of attention.... he walks around reaching out for attention no matter what the situation or context, he is literally a pure, unadulterated narcissist and acts and assumes the rest of the world must step into and become part of his narcissistic, all-about-daniel world he has created.... i'm sure amanda needs a break from this cult show, quite often.... the funny thing about daniel's selfish shtick is that he is charming and seemingly nice and joyful and happy, which draws people in..... it's pretty unique, this style of narcissism; but it grows thick and unbearable very, very quickly.
Pretty much this. Only thing worse than him with his selfie stick at the tables annoying everyone with his petulant obnoxious entitled behaviour is him when hes drunk.

He starts challenging everyone to arm wrestles then literally starts punching and slapping people much bigger than himself. Good natured people who could easily knock him out but they just take it from him because he's a drunk poker celebrity.

He has some serious insecurities underlying all the transparent displays of ego and bravado.
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06-13-2023 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Lionelhuttz
Even if he isn’t overselling his mtt action (I think he is) he is not focused on playing in a optimal way by punting folding stacks on bubbles and he seems more worried about making “drops” of his merch than the tournament. This isn’t a “the mark up is too high” debate or he isn’t good at tournaments he should not sell — He is just stealing money.
This. I certainly wouldn't put it past him to oversell. The guy is a straight up hustler. He'd do anything if he thought there was a $ to be made. It is actually stealing because if he is overselling action he will make damn sure to never cash in an event that he's backed in.

Has he ever actually gotten a result for his backers? I don't recall him cashing in anything that he didn't have all of himself in.
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06-13-2023 , 01:08 AM
He cashed i believe in 2 of 3 wsop events in 2019 and then lost main event too
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06-13-2023 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvDaVlogs
I think he may be referring to trooper colluding with his friend Harry in them?
Trooper has somehow been on a downswing since Harry stopped cheating with him.
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06-13-2023 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvDaVlogs
So did trooper say his results in his latest one? I couldnt find it but saw someone in the comments say congrats on booking another win?
Of course he didn't cash! That guy comments the same thing in every Trooper Vlog regardless of the result lol
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06-13-2023 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvDaVlogs
He cashed i believe in 2 of 3 wsop events in 2019 and then lost main event too
Oh yeah. He probably had a small piece of himself in those.
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06-13-2023 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvDaVlogs
I think he may be referring to trooper colluding with his friend Harry in them?

Or maybe is referring to the wsop sng system is supposed to be a satellite system, meaning you win the sng, you use those chips for buy ins for tournaments. it turned into people playing sngs, cashing, then selling the lammers to people in line, which is why they were ultimately shut down after some pressure by some sort of officials as i understand it.

So did trooper say his results in his latest one? I couldnt find it but saw someone in the comments say congrats on booking another win?
The colluding with Harry thing is a legit knock on Trooper but everyone was selling them -nothing unethical about that.
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06-13-2023 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by angle_shooter
This. I certainly wouldn't put it past him to oversell. The guy is a straight up hustler. He'd do anything if he thought there was a $ to be made. It is actually stealing because if he is overselling action he will make damn sure to never cash in an event that he's backed in.

Has he ever actually gotten a result for his backers? I don't recall him cashing in anything that he didn't have all of himself in.
Nah he's not a hustler. He's too lazy and dumb to be a hustler.
On a much bigger scale someone like Dnegs is a pure old school hustler.
Trooper had first mover advantage with poker vlogs and managed to fumble the ball.
Even if he oversells to some nonsense 300 dollar event wtf kind of hustle is that.
The guy is delivering lollipops and 20 dollar hats to people on the strip he's no hustler.
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06-13-2023 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Nah he's not a hustler. He's too lazy and dumb to be a hustler.
On a much bigger scale someone like Dnegs is a pure old school hustler.
Trooper had first mover advantage with poker vlogs and managed to fumble the ball.
Even if he oversells to some nonsense 300 dollar event wtf kind of hustle is that.
The guy is delivering lollipops and 20 dollar hats to people on the strip he's no hustler.

Haha I didn't say he was a successful hustler.

I classify all his revenue streams to be small time hustles. Whether it's selling lollipops, hats, overselling his tournament action, the Westgate game, comp hustling, coupon book hustling, cash and gift cards sent from viewers, donations to his Patreon or PayPal accounts.

If there's a way to make money from the generosity and charity of others he will find it.
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06-13-2023 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvDaVlogs
I think he may be referring to trooper colluding with his friend Harry in them?
Do you have any proof of that?
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06-13-2023 , 05:24 AM
Trooper selling action to a $300 event is lol.

But then again RDP sold half his action for the $400 event he came 3rd in
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06-13-2023 , 06:50 AM


So this explains why Vegas Poker Nomad quit law school to become a "poker pro".

He started on a heater winning 12 sessions in a row. His 16th session in 2013 up $2619 is still his biggest win ever LOL.

Funny gambling experiences for myself: first time I ever got a spin on Wheel of Fortune I hit 1000. First 2 times I ever bet the 2 or 12 bets in Craps I hit them both, back to back. The stickman looked at the pitboss like WTF.

It's like the gambling gods know you're a virgin and wants to suck you in.
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06-13-2023 , 07:36 AM
Yeah referring to the satellite collusion with Harry, there is nothing wrong with just selling lammers obv. I don’t even believe that to be a permanent mark on Trooper’s rep, if he plays straight from then on, but now he is resorting to off-brand Chino Rheem tactics and this is a poker forum where we call out scams.
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