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02-13-2021 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
He was never self employed as a professional poker player, at least not in 2019. Possibly a few years before when he was trying to play for a living.

Just playing a lot of poker doesn't mean you are self employed as a poker pro, unless you are actually making a significant amount of your total income from it.

He was self employed as a Youtuber tho with ad rev and sales from merch. But wouldn't get any UI money unless he actually filed and paid taxes for 2019 for that business.
If you A. Intend for the endeavor to be a profitable endeavor and your time and effort reflects that and B. You expect to make a future profit and C. You have the necessary knowledge to succeed in the field and D. You depend on the income then there is a pretty good chance that income is for a businees. The amount of profit is inconsequential.

A lot of people, though, probably do not file as self-employed to avoid the 15% self-employment tax (although part of this tax is in and of itself deductible). I'm guessing a lot of people just lump it in with their gambling winning/losses or dont even include it in their taxes. In this pandemic situation, those that did that actually shot themselves in the foot.
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02-13-2021 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by badbeats
I watch his vlogs, that said, he is easily the most obnoxious of all poker vloggers. It's a struggle to get thru a video of his.

I did enjoy seeing a tournament vlog. Ryan Depaulo has been running above life ev for some time now.

https://youtu.be/cmtAcl-IwuY

He was literally making fun of Joe having autism. Of course his reply to that I'm sure would be to "lighten up". That's usually how people try to defend themselves in these situations.

Like yourself I occasionally watch his vlogs and at one point I was subbed, but the obnoxiousness just makes it so cringe-worthy. And it is obviously not just for the poker table because he's like that off the tables as well. It's like he's stuck in a 12 year olds mind that hasnt figured out how to interact with society in a normal fashion. It's kind of bizarre if you ask me.
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02-13-2021 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
I thought that YouTube has video makers' social security numbers and issues them 1099's and everything is on the books and official. If he's been getting 1099's from YouTube for years and not filing tax returns, he's about to get into some serious trouble.

I bet you that he files his taxes on his YouTube income (but deducts everything under the sun including all his meals, part of his apartment, maybe his poker losses, and anything he can imagine) and for this reason he got a stimulus check.

I'm curious if he filled for the 1099'ers unemployment program and if he is eligible since he's still making YouTube money and merch money which might disqualify him from collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if he is trying to play both sides of it though, claiming the gig workers unemployment program and not reporting his current YouTube money coming in. Again, it might catch up to him although there seems to be widespread fraud in that program so who knows if they'll ever get to finding him.

I thought he was comfortable financially the last few years after getting a family inheritance. I wonder if something happened with that or if he's just complaining to get more merch sales and donations to his cashapp/paypal while everything is actually the same as it was pre-covid. He does seem like a pretty big complainer.
If you are getting 1099'd by Youtube, Youtube is also going to report that to the IRS so the IRS already knows what you are making. "Reporting" it is merely a formality that the IRS expects law abiding citizens to do.

Also, next time, can you throw in some more speculation? I dont think your post had enough this time.
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02-13-2021 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
...A lot of people, though, probably do not file as self-employed to avoid the 15% self-employment tax (although part of this tax is in and of itself deductible). I'm guessing a lot of people just lump it in with their gambling winning/losses or dont even include it in their taxes. In this pandemic situation, those that did that actually shot themselves in the foot.
Let's start with the premise Trooper's Vlogs are lifestyle Vlogs (not Poker Vlogs) according to the Trooper. Trooper has been making Vlogs for 8+ years. Does anyone ever remember Trooper talking about income taxes, 1099's, healthcare insurance, unemployment claims, or anything else 'normal' people encounter in life? Other than an occasional mention of food tax on his overpriced slice of terrible Pizza, I don't. I'm not even sure if he collected unemployment insurance when the Linq closed their poker room? I remember Trooper (in a round about way) mentioning he did not get a stimulus check. To sum this all up, I am fairly certain Trooper does not file.
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02-13-2021 , 02:27 PM
Enough with the speculation about stuff that really has nothing to do with Trooper as a vlogger. And you guys wonder why this thread ends up closed or with so many crazy rules that no other thread on the forums have. Why are you guys so infatuated with that guy? I've left this thread alone. There are people posting who are on the "list" in the OP, I've let it slide, but holy ****, you guys just can't stay out of his personal life can you? You would think after the recent dust up that you guys could control yourselves for a little while!
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02-13-2021 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
Enough with the speculation about stuff that really has nothing to do with Trooper as a vlogger. And you guys wonder why this thread ends up closed or with so many crazy rules that no other thread on the forums have. Why are you guys so infatuated with that guy? I've left this thread alone. There are people posting who are on the "list" in the OP, I've let it slide, but holy ****, you guys just can't stay out of his personal life can you? You would think after the recent dust up that you guys could control yourselves for a little while!
Thanks, i am one of those on that bs 'list', (although i havnt said fa about taxes btw)
Most of those exiled posters were fine, it was just ego powered mods.

I asked them to find 1 unacceptable post of mine in the last year before they exiled me, they couldnt of course, and just used the age old "my house, my rules" argument and banned.

So please dont use any existing mod rulebook.

Make your own rules, make them clear, and weeeeeeeeee lets try this again

We should be allowed to critique/criticize/applaud/etc vloggers for their life choices they decide to publish on the internet.
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02-13-2021 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsi
We should be allowed to critique/criticize/applaud/etc vloggers for their life choices they decide to publish on the internet.
I agree for the most part. Troopers taxes don't fall into that category in my opinion and just leads to speculation about a myriad of other subjects. I've never watched troopers vlogs and don't intend to start now just so that I can police what's fair game because he brought it up and what's not. I would think a good guide to what's ok to post is: What would you want a bunch of randoms on the internet discussing about you're personal life? Maybe you guys talking about troopers income can go ahead and post a copy of your most recent tax return?
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02-13-2021 , 03:14 PM
In a recent video, he talked about how Covid affected his income/business/coffee etc. so that is why talk began. Because a big part of that would be if he was getting PUA like Millions of other people.
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02-13-2021 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by badbeats
Question: Are you open to suggestions?

You do know this place was doing fine without a mod, right ?
Yes, all of the people that didn't want any tangent in this thread are now open to talking about tax filings. Such a riveting conversation.

People that want to talk about Trooper are the ones that don't want moderation.
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02-13-2021 , 03:20 PM
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Question: Are you open to suggestions?

You do know this place was doing fine without a mod, right ?
wrong
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02-13-2021 , 03:24 PM
RDP is A legend.

I'll leave now.
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02-13-2021 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
wrong

New sheriff in town. Finally that lame cowgirls avatar finally makes sense with you modding this **** kicking town called the vlog thread.
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02-13-2021 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
RDP is A legend.

I'll leave now.
He really is. I think he's annoying AF half of the time, but am still a fan.
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02-13-2021 , 03:54 PM
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RDP is A legend.

I'll leave now.
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He really is. I think he's annoying AF half of the time, but am still a fan.
First time I ever heard of him was last night, because of this thread. At first glance, I give him a thumbs up.
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02-13-2021 , 04:07 PM
I'm very confused about what all is happening
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02-13-2021 , 04:20 PM
^ Bismarck weather will do that to people.

OMFG! Is it really -11 F in the afternoon ?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/bi...orecast/329830

Going to -32 F overnight, and that don't include wind chill.
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02-13-2021 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by badbeats
Ben Deach at the Peppermill in Reno.

https://youtu.be/mof9NvsRkS0

Ben doesn't get enough love for continuing to put out quality content consistently. IMO

He shows the good, the bad, and the ugly and while from a strategy standpoint it is hard for me to learn from him (just because he is a very opponent dependent player and I do not have the ability to play with the same opponents on a consistent basis), I love to hear his thought processes.
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02-13-2021 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
I agree for the most part. Troopers taxes don't fall into that category in my opinion and just leads to speculation about a myriad of other subjects. I've never watched troopers vlogs and don't intend to start now just so that I can police what's fair game because he brought it up and what's not. I would think a good guide to what's ok to post is: What would you want a bunch of randoms on the internet discussing about you're personal life? Maybe you guys talking about troopers income can go ahead and post a copy of your most recent tax return?
We don’t walk around with a cameras vlogging our life 24/7 like Tim does. As for my tax return I would release it with redacted things to protect my personal info. I pay my taxes as state and federal law dictate. I don’t think it’s getting too personal to discuss how a vlogger makes a living as long as no accusations are made. If unemployed people want to be “influencers” and want to beg for money over the internet they open themselves to people discussing, criticizing etc. Again as long as it doesn’t cross over into defamations and smears I don’t get why we should be censored. Isn’t a message board for discussing things?
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02-13-2021 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
I agree for the most part. Troopers taxes don't fall into that category in my opinion and just leads to speculation about a myriad of other subjects. I've never watched troopers vlogs and don't intend to start now just so that I can police what's fair game because he brought it up and what's not. I would think a good guide to what's ok to post is: What would you want a bunch of randoms on the internet discussing about you're personal life? Maybe you guys talking about troopers income can go ahead and post a copy of your most recent tax return?


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02-13-2021 , 04:48 PM
All the Trooper talk is cancerous, low content gossip. And I myself have participated in it. I don't know what it is, but something about his personality and lifestyle choices really does trigger people and attract this kind of discussion.

Maybe it's because he's a loser but he's still kind of successful? So people are jealous not of his "success" but that he's flouting society's norms in some way. But other vloggers like Neeme and Owen don't get the hate that Trooper does, possibly because they are successful in a traditional way. It's a fascinating phenomenon.

The thread has been around for years and constantly fills up with Trooper gossip even though his vlogs haven't changed much. So he resonates strongly with people in some way to generate this consistent negative reaction. Trooper doesn't interest me much anymore, but the effect that he has on other people is much more interesting.
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02-13-2021 , 05:38 PM
Hating on Trooper made some sense when he was doing everything wrong trying to play poker for a living. That chapter of his life passed several years ago. Seems like he's leading a pretty decent life now and he's a pretty decent dude IRL, although I do understand his vlog persona may get to people.

If he could take that same mental warfare to the poker table to get in his opponents' heads his results would surely improve. Now that I think of it, he did get hostile with a player when I played with him but I think he was genuinely upset and was not just playing mind games with his opponent.
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02-13-2021 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
... But other vloggers like Neeme and Owen don't get the hate the Trooper does ...
I do not think Trooper's fanboys are hating on the Trooper.

I don't hate the Trooper, I wish him the best, and I think most of us fanboys do too.

I comment on the Trooper, and I critique on some of his doings, but I don't hate on the Trooper. I'm hoping Hollywood eventually gets around to making one of those Hollywood true stories movies about the Trooper.
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02-13-2021 , 06:49 PM
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02-13-2021 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by badbeats
I do not think Trooper's fanboys are hating on the Trooper.

I don't hate the Trooper, I wish him the best, and I think most of us fanboys do too.

I comment on the Trooper, and I critique on some of his doings, but I don't hate on the Trooper. I'm hoping Hollywood eventually gets around to making one of those Hollywood true stories movies about the Trooper.
Yeah, if you make a point and it happens to reflect negatively on the vlogger, you are automatically labelled a hater. Then again I dont expect to have any type of a nuanced conversation in a thread like this.
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02-13-2021 , 07:59 PM
Latest Trooper Results:

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+66

2021: +1,850

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