losing a lot of respect for both Jaman and Trooper. talking about how there's "no real proof" that Mike Postle cheated and the whole saga is only because of "mob mentality"

I really hope those paychecks from Stones are worth it.

Talking out of their asses at this point.

There is no way they could knowledgeably state that if they'd viewed any of the stuff in NVG or youtube. It's looking very bad for Mike Postle at this point.

Where's Jaman saying that?

starts at about 1:52:20

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/489058455?t=1h52m20s

highlights include Jaman boiling it down to "mob mentality" and "people are just bored", Mike's brother "there's no proof. If there was proof, then show the proof" and Trooper going with the classic "innocent until proven guilty" defense.

At this point if you haven't seen any proof then you are just willfully burying your head in the sand and don't actually want to see it.

The thread in NVG is moving quite fast. This is happening in California (Stones Casino) - not Turning Stone Casino (in upstate NY)

I think this is a fantastic summary and is pretty much up to date in terms of what every one currently knows

What ArtyMcFly posted after is even better.

You mean when he makes a poker vlog again

In other words, the "evidence" is circumstantial or "he wins too much to not be cheating".

I have played a lot of live poker. I would bet everything that I have that he is cheating.

His w/r is close to a g note per hour over 277 hours of footage (most of which is 1/3 and 5/5). Dude never makes a bad call/ or piles it in v nuts. It is beyond comical

Hard to find ethics in poker players

Phil Hellmuth shilled for Absolute Bet even after the superuser scandal came to light
Daniel Negreanu shilled for PS even after they robbed Super Nova Elite players of their promised rakeback
Andrew Neeme shilled for PS as well with the #VloggerInParadise challenge in exchange for a $25k buy-in
Jeff Boski shills for ACR even though their site appears to be bot infested and has questionable payouts
Trooper shills for Westgate even after their scandal of giving late entrants discounted tournament buy-ins to meet the overlay
Jayman shills for Stones in the same week their livestream cheating scandal came to light.

Brad Owen is the only popular vlogger I can see with his hands clean at this point.

Greatest Live Player Ever.

The way Jaman was going on and on about it you would nearly think someone was paying him to declare Mike Postle's innocence. It actually blows my mind that any experienced poker player would come to the defense of any other poker player so quickly after serious accusations like this have come out. We've seen this kind of thing play out so many times in the past where a poker player (sometimes squeaky clean) is accused of something and then it turns out he is guilty.

How well does Jaman even know Postle? I suppose he's played poker with him a decent amount and enjoys his company. I think you're crazy if you think you can judge a person's character simply by playing poker with him. Also, being good with people (as Postle seems to be) is a trait common to any good conman.

At this point I'd give Trooper a pass on this one though. I doubt he's that familiar with all the details and the only point he made was true. A person shouldn't have to prove one's innocence. Thing is, there is overwhelming proof that Postle was cheating. We don't need to know exactly how he cheated to know he cheated. I only needed to watch one session to realize he was cheating and there are literally dozens of sessions that people are watching to gather the data which will prove his guilt.

I guess it is different for different people but the initial attraction for many of us was that his vlogs were showing the struggles of a poker player trying to gain traction as a full time poker pro. The ups and downs he experienced made for a fascinating story, IMO. However, those days are long passed and I'm not sure what people find interesting about his vlogs these days other than he's a likeable guy with some fun catchphrases.

I thought all of these streams had a delay on them of at least 5 minutes, and usually more like 30 minutes. It's very surprising to me that anyone would think streaming a literally live game with hole cards was a good idea.

It is on delay, except not delayed for Postle, direct to his phone. Allegedly.

Yes it's on delay but the card data exists so there are likely a number of ways the system could be compromised in order for a cheater to gain access to that data. It sounds like Postle probably utilized the easiest way which is gaining access to the real time stream itself which should only be accessible to certain superusers in production.

One thing missing from this is Postle has deleted his Linkedin profile (and another I think). The issue here is that they show that he seems to be involved in some poker and mobile phone tech.

Not at all. Start with the summary posted earlier today in this thread and jump right into the NVG thread (that's what I did today. No way I was reading that kegathread from the beginning). It becomes obvious right away from the evidence that he is cheating.

Google "Sam Rothstein Fires the Slots Manager" from the movie "Casino"

I think boski played with the accused on one of his vlogs. Curious if he thinks the guy is cheating.

Boski appeared in a session Chicago Joey was reviewing late last night. I didn't watch the whole thing but right off the bat Postle bluffed Boski off Aces in a multiway PLO hand. It was looked like he had access to the hole cards.

Whoever does live graphics for the stream has access to the cards that are dealt first. It wouldn't be hard to relay that info to a player that you have an agreement with to split the winnings.

IJS.

https://twitter.com/ICuRaRook/status...496085504?s=20

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