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01-11-2024 , 01:27 AM
Read through a few of the most recent pages on this thread, but wanted to ask everyone’s thoughts.

Coming to Vegas for a bachelor party from Australia, group of 10 of us. We’re planning 2-3 nights of fine dining when we aren’t playing poker tourneys those nights.

Any suggestions, ideally at least one steakhouse, one Japanese, and anything else you would recommend. We will be booking very far in advance.

Last time I came to Vegas SW Steakhouse was all the hype. Not sure if it’s still good post-Covid
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01-11-2024 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 2xanman
Read through a few of the most recent pages on this thread, but wanted to ask everyone’s thoughts.

Coming to Vegas for a bachelor party from Australia, group of 10 of us. We’re planning 2-3 nights of fine dining when we aren’t playing poker tourneys those nights.

Any suggestions, ideally at least one steakhouse, one Japanese, and anything else you would recommend. We will be booking very far in advance.

Last time I came to Vegas SW Steakhouse was all the hype. Not sure if it’s still good post-Covid
What’s the budget? Joel Robuchon if everyone’s willing to spend $$$
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01-11-2024 , 02:04 AM
Pretty flexible, if something will knock everyone’s socks off Robuchon would be fine.

Ideally $100-$250ish per person though (for food excluding drinks). Half the group don’t drink.

Is Robuchon top tier/must try you think?
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01-11-2024 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 2xanman
Pretty flexible, if something will knock everyone’s socks off Robuchon would be fine.

Ideally $100-$250ish per person though (for food excluding drinks). Half the group don’t drink.

Is Robuchon top tier/must try you think?
Robuchon was the best dinner I’ve ever had and it’s not particularly close. Would be tough to get out of there for less than $250/person though. We spent $400 each and went mid-tier on the food order with one drink each( one extra dessert, and one dish with a $45 upcharge.

L’Atelier is their sister restaurant literally next door and would be easier to do for under 250 each. Never eaten there but everyone says it’s great.

Toca Madera is a great spot for a bachelor party, pretty cool atmosphere and the food is incredible, especially the steaks. Not sure I’d call it fine dining based on how loud it can be in there but the food is top tier and it’s a little less expensive than a place like SW. Few pics from Toca:


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01-11-2024 , 02:30 AM
You’re a legend!

Toca looks good, will definitely research it.

That is also a very strong recommendation for Robuchon so will have to consider that. The menu looks awesome there.

Any Japanese places you’d recommend?
I hear Nobu is not worth the hype
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01-11-2024 , 09:41 AM
Check out Bazaar Meat too for steakhouse type meal. I’d think that would be a great spot for a bachelor party group.
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01-11-2024 , 01:12 PM
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Check out Bazaar Meat too for steakhouse type meal. I’d think that would be a great spot for a bachelor party group.
I agree. Bazaar is one of those places where you have more fun in a larger group.

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Any Japanese places you’d recommend?
I hear Nobu is not worth the hype
If you're willing to go off-Strip, Kabuto and Yui are great.

Nobu is Nobu. Not sure if I'd say "not worth the hype" because that's obviously pretty subjective but it's certainly not worth the money compared to other options. You run into a bunch of celebs though if that's your thing.

Robuchon is extremely classic french fine dining. Certainly one of the best (and most expensive) restaurants in Vegas but I'm not sure if it's the right place for a bachelors party.

In case you're the groom, just do the honeymoon in Paris and go to a place like Le Pré Catelan which is run a student of Robuchon (and has 3 Michelin stars)
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01-11-2024 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2xanman
You’re a legend!

Toca looks good, will definitely research it.

That is also a very strong recommendation for Robuchon so will have to consider that. The menu looks awesome there.

Any Japanese places you’d recommend?
I hear Nobu is not worth the hype
Zuma at Cosmo is great.
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01-12-2024 , 07:09 PM
As far as a high end meal for a bachelor party.... then you either need to book a lot in advance or need a place with a private room. I would say é would be a good spot for that, but they don't even seat 10. Of course Kabuto is great, but I have no idea how easy/hard it would be for a seating of 10. I'd say Kame, but I don't think it fits in the budget. I will also agree with the Bazaar Meat suggestions.

Maybe the Grand Cru at Partage is a bit gimmicky, but certainly worth a mention... a private room would be nice. It's just not flashy on the outside.
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01-12-2024 , 11:49 PM
I think the restaurant doesn’t need to fit a bachelor party vibe so to speak, we’ll all be in Vegas for a week, so we won’t be having rowdy meals every night. The main criteria is that it can seat at least 8 people.

Worst case if only 6 fit too, we can send the 2 vegetarians in the group somewhere else, they’re cool with that.

We mainly just want to hit the current, top restaurants, that are ideally <$250pp ex alcohol. I’ve seen restaurants fall off over the years, so basically want to just know the right places to hit so I can book 3 months in advance given the big group

Thanks for all the input so far, lots of interesting options I’ve been sussing.

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01-13-2024 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 2xanman
I think the restaurant doesn’t need to fit a bachelor party vibe so to speak, we’ll all be in Vegas for a week, so we won’t be having rowdy meals every night. The main criteria is that it can seat at least 8 people.

Worst case if only 6 fit too, we can send the 2 vegetarians in the group somewhere else, they’re cool with that.

We mainly just want to hit the current, top restaurants, that are ideally &lt;$250pp ex alcohol. I’ve seen restaurants fall off over the years, so basically want to just know the right places to hit so I can book 3 months in advance given the big group

Thanks for all the input so far, lots of interesting options I’ve been sussing.

you really can’t go wrong with Cut. I’ve never had a less than fantastic meal there
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01-13-2024 , 01:21 AM
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We mainly just want to hit the current, top restaurants, that are ideally <$250pp ex alcohol. I’ve seen restaurants fall off over the years, so basically want to just know the right places to hit so I can book 3 months in advance given the big group
It is las Vegas. I think the lobster mushroom risotto appetizer at LPM at Cosmo is $80. Specifics are welcome.
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01-13-2024 , 01:36 AM
I would honestly condense 3 good meals into 2 great ones. There is so much good food in Vegas that you won't miss anything.
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01-13-2024 , 03:48 AM
I seriously can’t imagine going to a bunch of these places with 8 guy friends. Robuchon is spectacular so is guy savoy, a bunch of the tasting menu places are overrated but people on here love them.

I would embrace the vegas vibe. Go to vetri the views are amazing and you won’t get Italian like this outside of Italy and nyc. Bazaar meat is a great idea but prime, cut, scotch 80 prime, Bavettes are all top 10 steakhouses in us. In terms of Japanese, I personally would struggle for a recommendation. Japanese food on strip is arguably more overpriced than anything and the off the strip gems are too small. I might substitute that meal for maybe a place like Jaleo for tapas, wing lei for Chinese, or Milos for Greek seafood.
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01-13-2024 , 11:13 AM
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Go to vetri the views are amazing and you won’t get Italian like this outside of Italy and nyc.
Based on what? I've never been to Vetri and am curios what sets them apart.

FWIW, when people in the US talk about "Italian" food almost always they mean "Southern Italian" because that's where the vast majority of immigrants from Italy came from even though the population split South - North is 30 - 70 (I had to google that number). My home town is a little over 5 hour drive from Milan in the North. Food up there is very different from the Mediterranean olive oil based cuisine in the South because they're closer to the Alpes instead of the Mediterranean sea. So lots of butter and cream instead of olive oil.
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01-13-2024 , 01:55 PM
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a bunch of the tasting menu places are overrated but people on here love them.
People love them for multiple reasons. You have a tough time deciding, you are with a group where it's much easier to get the tasting than separate orders, or you trust the chef to give you something that you might not normally have or is in season.

Also, you get to taste more things than just lb or more of steak. I'm actually surprised how you can mention Guy Savoy and not understand this.
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01-13-2024 , 07:10 PM
Totally agree on-strip Japanese is the worst option in terms of value/quality.

I think a group of 8 guys might enjoy an AYCE sushi lunch spot off strip (if you have anywhere close to good eaters). Suggestions are in other LV food threads, but Sakana and Sushi Neko are at the top of the list, imo; plenty of others do a good job as well).
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01-14-2024 , 06:44 AM
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Based on what? I've never been to Vetri and am curios what sets them apart.

FWIW, when people in the US talk about "Italian" food almost always they mean "Southern Italian" because that's where the vast majority of immigrants from Italy came from even though the population split South - North is 30 - 70 (I had to google that number). My home town is a little over 5 hour drive from Milan in the North. Food up there is very different from the Mediterranean olive oil based cuisine in the South because they're closer to the Alpes instead of the Mediterranean sea. So lots of butter and cream instead of olive oil.
I mean I can give you a dissertation on at least 8 different regions of Italian cooking, beyond traveling all over Italy in college my wife has had personal lessons from chefs from different regions of Italy, or you could look at the menu and do a little research that vetri is one of less than a handful of great Italian chefs in this country. Your post comes off as quite condescending, I am not going to give a food recommendation without going to a restaurant multiple times and without knowledge of other options.
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01-14-2024 , 06:47 AM
Btw as a follow up, Toca Madera is extremely mediocre and has no value unless you are in the vegas vacation mode and price is not a concern. Everything on that menu I can find you something better and mostly if not always cheaper.
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01-14-2024 , 06:54 AM
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People love them for multiple reasons. You have a tough time deciding, you are with a group where it's much easier to get the tasting than separate orders, or you trust the chef to give you something that you might not normally have or is in season.

Also, you get to taste more things than just lb or more of steak. I'm actually surprised how you can mention Guy Savoy and not understand this.
Much bigger fan of the menu layout at a place like savoy or back in the day Picasso where there was a limited menu with multiple courses and you pick one of each. I have yet to find a chef I am so in tuned with that they know better than I do what I’m in the mood for. Even a great omakase I’m happy to do once and then go back and formulate an a La carte order around my favorites. Also I pretty firmly align myself with John Curtas that going to a restaurant is not about indulging the whims of the chef, it is about making the favorite food of the diner. Far too often those are not the same things.
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01-14-2024 , 02:03 PM
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do a little research that vetri is one of less than a handful of great Italian chefs in this country. Your post comes off as quite condescending
The latter wasn't my intention, I'm sorry.

Regarding the former, you specifically said "you won't get Italian like this outside Italy and NYC" and not "in this country". So you're saying that a restaurant in LV is more Italian than a restaurant in Lugano where people are native Italian speakers.

FWIW, I've never been but there's a 3 Michelin star Italian restaurant in Hong Kong and Don Alfonso 1890 in Toronto has repeatedly been named best Italian restaurant in North America. So I don't think it's unreasonable to ask what makes Vetri better than those places?

But I'm also always getting a tasting menu on my first visit to a restaurant if they offer one.
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01-15-2024 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 2xanman
Read through a few of the most recent pages on this thread, but wanted to ask everyone’s thoughts.

Coming to Vegas for a bachelor party from Australia, group of 10 of us. We’re planning 2-3 nights of fine dining when we aren’t playing poker tourneys those nights.

Any suggestions, ideally at least one steakhouse, one Japanese, and anything else you would recommend. We will be booking very far in advance.

Last time I came to Vegas SW Steakhouse was all the hype. Not sure if it’s still good post-Covid

For Japanese I would do Musashi, great food and Tiger will make it fun for a bachelor party.
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01-15-2024 , 01:21 PM
Wow sad 2+2 trolling has made its way into LVL dining thread, sad.

For a large group of guys dinner I’d definitely do a steakhouse. Bazaar would be at the top of my list. Definitely seems the most innovative and interesting out there.

I’d also consider some off strip places. I’d consider places like Herbs & Rye and Cleaver. Both are really popular local steakhouses/cocktail bars that are well reviewed.
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01-17-2024 , 12:41 AM
Has anyone here been to Carbone at the Aria?
Have heard good things about it from some friends who went recently.
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01-17-2024 , 03:17 PM
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The latter wasn't my intention, I'm sorry.

Regarding the former, you specifically said "you won't get Italian like this outside Italy and NYC" and not "in this country". So you're saying that a restaurant in LV is more Italian than a restaurant in Lugano where people are native Italian speakers.

FWIW, I've never been but there's a 3 Michelin star Italian restaurant in Hong Kong and Don Alfonso 1890 in Toronto has repeatedly been named best Italian restaurant in North America. So I don't think it's unreasonable to ask what makes Vetri better than those places?

But I'm also always getting a tasting menu on my first visit to a restaurant if they offer one.
I’m not currently up to date on my Lugano or Hong Kong Italian Michelin scene lol. I’m saying that easily half of the menu if not more will be an approach to northern Italian cooking that you can’t find almost anywhere. Additionally, I recently went to mother wolf, vetris casual Italian place at red rock blows it away.
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