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Old 07-01-2009, 01:31 PM   #1
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Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitch

Live from Las Vegas, July 1st 2009 - The Pokercast crew has invaded Las Vegas and the 40th annual World Series of Poker to continue our coverage of this prestigious event. We were able to track down the man, the legend, David Sklansky to chat about how his series is going so far and even get a play by play account of his recent home invasion. Ilari Sahamies, better known as "Ziigmund" online also graces our make shift studio at the Palms Place for a feature interview to talk about his WSOP experience, his early days in poker involving some pool hall battles with Patrick Antoinus and of course the sick cash game action over at the Bellagio. Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitch was kind enough to sit in during the last segment and provide some invaluable tips and strategy for deuce to seven players. Mike and Adam also talk some forum static, WSOP news and of course gives away the password for the July 5th Poker Stars VIP Club Invitational for Pokercast listeners.


Pokercast Theme - Demitone Productions Inc. © 2007 : Ra - I Believe Again - Black Sun © 2008 : Silversun Pickups - Swoon - Substitution © 2009 : Lynyrd Skynyrd - Tuesday's Gone - pronounced 'lĕh-'nérd 'skin-'nérd © 1973

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Old 07-01-2009, 01:34 PM   #2
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

Its aboot time....DLing now...
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:46 PM   #3
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

ROFL .. Just 30 seconds in but Bunner that's your top intro so far!
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:14 PM   #4
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

Ziigmund is such a great guy lol. Is it just my or did he say 'I don't think I wanna play durrrr and Patrick HU anymore'? I really don't think I believe him haha. Great interview and a great show as always guys
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:17 PM   #5
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

Nearing the end of the Sklansky segment. Already, a classic episode. F the Sklansky minute, time for a weekly Sklansky half hour!
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:28 PM   #6
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

Where is the cash out song?
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:44 PM   #7
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Where is the cash out song?
Dunno if it's the newest video, but here's the link that I have:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IphR3A64VI
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:49 PM   #8
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Could you help me with that 2p2er called "Sora"?
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:48 PM   #9
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Great show as always.
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:48 PM   #10
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

So F awsome
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:01 PM   #11
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Thanks for the great show =)

p.s. you guys seriously have to have me on the show just for the karma... I mean, Greg Muller's second bracelet; this karma is nothing but real!
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:30 PM   #12
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Ziigmund is such a great guy lol. Is it just my or did he say 'I don't think I wanna play durrrr and Patrick HU anymore'? I really don't think I believe him haha. Great interview and a great show as always guys
He played durrrr yesterday PLO HU, and has said number of times before he won't play him HU anymore, but has still decided to play him occasionally.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:42 PM   #13
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

[x] stockholm syndrome
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:36 PM   #14
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

haha, nice. Great Show Guys!

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Dunno if it's the newest video, but here's the link that I have:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IphR3A64VI
There is a newer version with the updated audio track and a few changes to the video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYMG0yY88pM
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:44 PM   #15
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This has probably been my favourite pokercast. Sklansky made it for me.
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:18 PM   #16
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

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[x] stockholm syndrome
In the stockholm syndrome the captive bonds with the captor immediately...not seven years later

But you know what? The fact is if your theory applies at all it was the other way around....I was a little hard on him
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:23 PM   #17
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

Downloading now, can't wait to listen!
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:46 PM   #18
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

Best episode in awhile, and can someone get me up to date on "Sora"?
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:02 AM   #19
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Best episode in awhile, and can someone get me up to date on "Sora"?

Saura....use the name do a search, you should find everything you need
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:15 AM   #20
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

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Where is the cash out song?
The official MP3 can be downloaded using this link:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ztztngzgz4m

I gotta thank the Pokercast team for playing my song... I about fell out of my seat. Awesome episode!
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:52 AM   #21
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

Great Sklansky interview.

Without having read the background information in detail, Saura seems like a person of highly dubious character. "I only lied to him about my age and my background." Oh, so basically everything? I don't like the downplay there. It is unfair that Sklansky's reputation was besmirched by a situation she caused, as I doubt most men are going to able to resist the wiles of a young lady in that scenario, regardless of whether she's hyper-intelligent or semi-retarded (as both claims have been made, and I have no idea what the truth is). Take this with a grain of salt, as it is a relatively uneducated opinion.

The book should simply be called "Thoughts That Might Be Useful".
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:30 AM   #22
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

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In the stockholm syndrome the captive bonds with the captor immediately...not seven years later
I think Tedtodd was referring to Sklansky and the robber.


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But you know what? The fact is if your theory applies at all it was the other way around....I was a little hard on him
Yes, most people assume the older guy controls the younger girl, but very often the opposite is true. This is probably for several reasons, including:

1. The young girl is more desirable than the older guy, therefore she has more "leverage" in the relationship

2. Via selection, the assertive young girls pursue a certain type of guy she has some control over.


Unfortunately, none of these reasons hold up in court....


So, is Sklansky going to verify your identity?
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:48 AM   #23
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

So Sklansky invites a 16 year old girl inside his house that shows up on his doorstep.

Proceeds to want to buy house with 16 year old.

Says 'But I didn't realise she was 16 year old runaway' - nice excuse buddy.

I DON'T BUY IT SKLANSKY. Deep down you knew, you just chose not to know. And you certainly didn't go out of your way to figure anything out.

What kind of 'relationship' was this WHEN SHE WAS a 16 year old runaway??? OH BUT YOU DIDN'T KNOW RIGHT SKLANSKY.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:03 AM   #24
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:09 PM   #25
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Re: Pokercast Episode 77 - Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, David Sklansky & Chris “DeathDonkey” Vitc

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So Sklansky invites a 16 year old girl inside his house that shows up on his doorstep.

Proceeds to want to buy house with 16 year old.

Says 'But I didn't realize she was 16 year old runaway' - nice excuse buddy.

I DON'T BUY IT SKLANSKY. Deep down you knew, you just chose not to know. And you certainly didn't go out of your way to figure anything out.

What kind of 'relationship' was this WHEN SHE WAS a 16 year old runaway??? OH BUT YOU DIDN'T KNOW RIGHT SKLANSKY.
Your understanding of the situation is flawed, Saura was apparently a common fixture with David in Vegas card rooms, many players knew her and nobody thought she was younger - on the contrary - everyone thought she was older than the 20 years that she claimed. Even Mason and his wife knew and liked Saura, they were all shocked to find out she was a 16 year old runaway. Once the truth was discovered the relationship stopped immediately, David did not intentionally have a relationship with an underage girl, she trapped him, not the other way around, Saura readily admits this, Of course now that Saura is older and wiser she knows what she did was wrong.

continue wearing your tinfoil hat if you don't believe this is the truth.

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So, is Sklansky going to verify your identity?
Her identity isnt a secret, in fact she was at the WSOP this week saying hello to old friends who knew her back when she was living with David (7 years ago? its before I lived in Vegas).
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