Thought the Scotty interview was pretty bad, if only cause I couldn't actually understand most of it. Also, it's only fun if you already know all these things he says.

When the use is transformative (mashed up and re-worked) and so insubstantial (one small sound bite from a TV show, one small clip from a song - then used as alltogether maybe a couple of minutes of a 3 hour podcast), it'd be pretty easy to defend as fair use and I can't see any of the copyright holders feeling confident trying to sue for infringement, whereas a site like pokertube just uploads full TV shows and doesn't transform the content in any way.... totally different circumstances, pretty clearly

He uses '******ed' as slang to mean something completely different than the way it would be used offensively, whereas Todd uses slurs to describe people based on their actual ethnicity - if you're calling an action or some non-human thing, say a floor ruling, ******ed, you mean it in the slang term, whereas Todd describing a Japanese person as "Jap" is not slang or indirect in any way

In response to the media censorship issue: wasn't there a problem a few years back with someone handling the WSOP Twitter account calling a player (Jon Aguiar?) a whiny bitch? And recently another media source making some sort offensive remark to Garrett Greer (recent NVG thread)?

Not saying I agree with it, but I'd imagine this clause is to protect against nonsense like that.

Meh, I think it's just best avoided.

To the best of my attention, Terrence used it once, and only half used it at that, but if it was a regular term used in the discussion, I'd have a bit of a problem with it.

But I'm not a fan of the bacon & titties line either, Tbh.

Wow. What a life-nit.
I bet people laugh about you when you're not around.

Yeah, I should have thought more about how relevant the complaint is, as I don't actually know how often the word's been used, my reply assumed that Terrence does use the term but I actually don't remember well enough to know whether that's true or not so if it's not then I apologize for me defending something and in turn assuming it was true/valid

good to hear fulltilt is working on the site, if they can fix that monster of a lobby im happy!!!!!

Lol, Scotty interview was awesome! But didn't hear the "where the cocktail at baby!?!" Drop, that's my favorite Scotty quote

Since everyone else is having a right old pop at all y'all, can I just remind you that hurling is played in Ireland. Ireland is not in the UK. Ireland is a sovereign state and a member of the EU in its own right.

We only speak english because the brits made speaking Irish punishable by death whilst they were the occupying force</politard>

#justsayin

Northern Ireland is part of the UK, and it's played there too. All-Ireland championship??
#justsayin

The six counties in the north east of Ireland are part of Ireland. Not sure what your point is, mo chara

Oh, Adam, the penalty point system in the UK is 12 points in 3 years, with a standard speeding penalty being 3 points. Also get points for using a phone whilst driving and any other infraction. In other words, you'd be fecked.

I also thought the Scotty bit was pretty great, seemed like a pretty great advertisement for the soundboard too.

The part about the Hellmuth poem was hilarious. I also laughed at one of the replies to his tweet with a version that might actually be written by Phil himself:

Please do a Weekly play money tournament!
It sounds lame reading it, but if you are in the U.S. you understand

Seconded.

lacrosse+hockey+baseball+rugby=hurling
Played on a gigantic pitch

Here I thought the Irish made a sport out of vomiting after drinking.

Assuming that the concept of fair use exists everywhere the show is played, the issue is where are the clips sourced from and why is attribution not given anywhere?

If the clips are not properly sourced the original artists that did the work are getting no revenue from their work. Are the clips being taken from youtube clips? Or a DVD purchased for home use and not for commercial purposes?

Why are the Pokercast guys so focused on not giving any credit to the works they build their clips off of? Just writing it off as fair use is like throwing in a $5 chip to call an allin bet, minimal effort to avoid having to push in a couple of your own stacks of chips.

Even if they're not purchasing the content (which given their refusal to answer is a good assumption), giving attribution costs them nothing. A thread in the forum called "Ross' Drops" with a description of what clip(s) he uses to put together each drop. It at least gives the original artists credit while claiming fair use arguments. What interview did that Phil drop come from? What are each of the clips that make up the 140 or less intro? Simple things like that.

He used ******ed in the same manner as it is used offensively. Saying that a ruling is ******ed is the same as saying "Only a ****** [mentally handicapped person] would make that decision". Just as offensive as Todd's comments are to groups of ethnicities, Tchan's comment is offensive to every handicapped person who was tormented with the ****** label growing up and in their adulthood.

Where can I listen to/watch the full interview that the Devilfish drop is taken from? The one where he says "99 percent of people who play poker play poker for the crack"?

That clip is actually Padraig Parkinson, I can't find the exact clip right now but I'll look. It should be one of his top searches on youtube.

if it were one of he top clips on Youtube, why can't you find it?

Think about this, if you had taken 2 minutes when getting the clip to attribute the interview and provide a link on a public web page or private note, you could easily reply to a rather simple question.

It was a pokercast interview.

If correct, the Pokercast is infringing on itself!

You laugh.

One of the things I've learned about copyright infringement cases, nothing is too absurd. From a Wikipedia article:

John Fogerty was the lead singer of the popular rock group Creedence Clearwater Revival (CCR). In 1970, as part of CCR, he wrote "Run Through the Jungle," to which Fantasy, Inc., eventually acquired the exclusive publishing rights. CCR disbanded in 1972, and Fogerty began a solo career with another music label. In 1985, Fogerty published "The Old Man Down the Road", which he released on Warner Bros. Records. Fantasy sued Fogerty for copyright infringement (Fantasy, Inc. v. Fogerty), claiming that "The Old Man Down the Road" was simply "Run Through the Jungle" with new words. A jury found in favor of Fogerty, and he sought attorney's fees as provided by the Copyright Act of 1976. The district court denied Fogerty's request, concluding that Fantasy had not brought its suit in bad faith and that it was not frivolous. The Ninth Circuit affirmed, refusing to abandon its differing standards for successful defendants who sought attorney's fees in copyright cases than for successful plaintiffs. Under this double standard, prevailing plaintiffs generally obtained attorney's fees as a matter of course, while prevailing defendants had to show that the original suit was frivolous and brought in bad faith. Because other courts of appeals did not have double standards for awarding attorney's fees in this context, the Supreme Court agreed to review the Ninth Circuit's decision.