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because iam not losing playing 24 tables, small winner so far, but im aiming for like 500-600k sn this year so i want to keep the 24 tbls, even known my winrate is not good so far it would be ok for me till the end of the year with the RB im getting, i also 24+ tabled sngs and mtts in the last years so i think i got used to it, i know i need to work in my game but i think i can do that aswell 24 tabling especially at FR

04-08-2012 , 08:58 AM

#902

MaskedManQc

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 620

Would like to have your toughts guys on red line and non showdown winnings (losses).

At what point in term of bb/100 losses in non showdown we should consider we have a leak (or many!)?

Let's say for a "standard" TAG that plays 100NL FR?

I know this depends on many factors and Hero's playing style, but would like to know at what point this is a leak or not, at least...

04-11-2012 , 12:16 AM

#903

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

I would say if you are losing 3ptbb in redline that it's very clearly a leak.

04-13-2012 , 01:27 PM

#904

aljufo

journeyman

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 365

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAW_FORCE

I would say if you are losing 3.5ptbb in redline that it's very clearly a leak.

FYP

04-14-2012 , 05:59 AM

#905

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

actually i take that back. just looked through my db and a lot of very solid players winning at good clips have horrible redlines up to -5ptbb (i play merge)

04-14-2012 , 07:46 PM

#906

lofcuk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,531

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmarqui

nl50/100 @ pokerstars

Can anyone tell how to post my pop up and get it to look like this visually? Mine always come out too small.

04-15-2012 , 11:34 AM

#907

Slugant

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,161

print screen

04-17-2012 , 04:57 AM

#908

MaliceUW

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,490

Quote:

Originally Posted by lofcuk

Can anyone tell how to pop up and get it to look like this visually? Mine always come out too small.

sorry to hear that bro

04-18-2012 , 07:48 AM

#909

lofcuk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,531

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaliceUW

sorry to hear that bro

04-23-2012 , 01:13 PM

#910

MaskedManQc

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 620

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAW_FORCE

actually i take that back. just looked through my db and a lot of very solid players winning at good clips have horrible redlines up to -5ptbb (i play merge)

OK, but solid winning players over what sample? I can it be because of positive variance?

I don't want to go crazy about red lines, but losing - 10bb/100 seems like a lot.

06-13-2012 , 08:36 PM

#911

conilmionome

newbie

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 36

Hi guys,
a little help to me in a special way for my stats from cut off!

my stats from NL100-400 cash game 6max

overall:

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for position:

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specifically from cut off:

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graph overall with showdown winning:

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graph with showdown cut off:

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i also add my last 60k hands..
my result was disastrous from cut off..

for position:

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stats only cut off:

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graph only cut off:

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leak finders:

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my pop up:

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ty

06-14-2012 , 09:42 PM

#912

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

you are an over aggressive **** and i hate you.

06-28-2012 , 02:09 AM

#913

j schlita

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 152

been playing full ring as my main game lately and it's gone pretty good but I still would like to hear some experienced full ringers thoughts.

06-28-2012 , 07:08 AM

#914

Slugant

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,161

let me warn u first, sample of 9,7k hands doesnt mean anything
i would much prefer a larger 4bet range
cbet bit on the high side, could be variance and u are flopping well
stats are fine but not much to do there

08-07-2012 , 08:52 PM

#915

raradevils

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,189

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAW_FORCE

actually i take that back. just looked through my db and a lot of very solid players winning at good clips have horrible redlines up to -5ptbb (i play merge)

Why is my redline above my winnings?

08-07-2012 , 08:53 PM

#916

raradevils

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,189

Last edited by raradevils; 08-07-2012 at 08:53 PM. Reason: Why is my image not showing up?

08-11-2012 , 08:40 AM

#917

Slugant

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,161

your blue line is negative

08-20-2012 , 07:57 PM

#918

WillowUfgood

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 325

Should I be worried if after 63 samples, I am down 5.32bb/hand w/ KK?

08-20-2012 , 08:12 PM

#919

ishipkq

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,479

fold prf is ev0. next time, you know what to do.

08-20-2012 , 09:11 PM

#920

WillowUfgood

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 325

-7.99 BB/100 over 68 sample w/ KK

08-20-2012 , 09:12 PM

#921

WillowUfgood

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 325

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishipkq

fold prf is ev0. next time, you know what to do.

Not sure what you are saying? I should fold to any raise w/ KK?

08-21-2012 , 05:23 AM

#922

Xela

veteran

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,163

Such small hand samples mean very little. A couple of big hands can make all the difference. Id still unsure just open shove KK every time and I can guarantee your winrate will improve long term

11-29-2012 , 10:51 AM

#923

ash00

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 211

What cbet range for all streets are good winners?

Flop: 65%
Turn: 50%
River: 50%

This?

11-29-2012 , 12:15 PM

#924

ash00

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 211

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowUfgood

Not sure what you are saying? I should fold to any raise w/ KK?

i think vs 3bettor whose 3bet is 0% - 1% over large sample is probably fold. same for 4bet.

11-29-2012 , 12:23 PM

#925

ash00

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 211

NL50

maybe i should increase
1) 3bet to overall 7%
2) 4bet to 2.5%
3) Flop cbet to 62%
4) River cbet to 45%
5) AFq on river to 30%

Decrease
1) Turn cbet to 55%

any advice?

Last edited by ash00; 11-29-2012 at 12:30 PM.

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