Its been posted before that going from 5% -> 4.5% rake doesnt equal a 10% rake reduction (I cant remember the numbers but it was like 9.5% at 100NL and 9% at 200NL). The rake cap decrease increases these numbers, but by how much Im unsure.

Look at the numbers havenofear posted and all the previous posts ROM made about how lowering rake could possibly lead to you being worse off because of less rakeback. These are broadly what I would assume to be correct ie. that most regs bottom line is lower than it was last year, but better than it was from Jan 1st -> Now.

I might be missing something, but aren't these changes that have just been made the same as the initial changes that were announced at the same time as the rake method change?

No, they initially said they were going to lower the rake to 4.5%, but with no decrease in rake cap and increase in rake when 5 handed.

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found way to stay longer, if they tell me take off though, its okay


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Hmm,

I think theres a big misconception with these changes, in that a lot of regs will say '10% rake reduction + 6.67% rake cap decrease.. well thats about 16%, I might not get all of that but itll be like 13% or so.' hurt posted pretty much exactly this earlier. I think this is wrong.

The general gist is that on most pots you play you are saving 10% and on a small number of pots you are saving 6.67% (and on an almost minute number of pots between 2.80 and $3 rake you are saving somewhere between 10% and 6.67%). These do not add together, but instead average out (Ill post calcs later in this post). The net effect of these is an asymptotic function that approaches a 10% reduction but can never ever exceed 10%.

Cliffs:

-Rake decrease will not be greater than 10%
-Its counter intuitive and changing both prob leads regs to believe the decrease is greater than they actually receive.
-Because of this, Im somewhat sceptical that Stars are pulling a mathematical 'trick.'

Ive played 67,775 hands of 100NL this month (Im ignoring euro and PL hands):

64899 of them were below $62 and therefore experience a 10% reduction.
172 hands were between $62 and $66 and therefore experience a reduction between 10% and 6.67%. Im going to assume 10% for the purposes of calculation which will overestimate the rake reduction.
2704 hands were >$66 and thus experience a 6.67% drop.

64899/67775 * 10% = 9.576%
172/67775 * 10% = 0.02%
2704/67775 * 6.67% = 0.266%

Total rake reduction = 9.576 + 0.02 + 0.266 = 9.862%

Note: Im ignoring the change in rake caps SH, but such a small portion of your hands are SH (even if you start tables (unless your Jimbo)) that it shouldnt matter.

Also note: I think if the cap decreased > 10% then total rake reduction would greater than 10%. But as long as you keep the cap decrease less than the rake decrease then I think it will not exceed that number ie. If you decrease rake by 50% and decreased caps by 49%, then total rake will not decrease by more than 50%.

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good to see those changes, better than what I expected

Would 1M pace now equate to 900k pace?

More like 600-700k IMO, just guessing. I'm sure all the numbers will be up soon enough.

I meant 1M pace since jan 1st. Very interested if anyone has an answer

I'm guessing that if so far this year you've been on pace to hit Exactly 1m VPP on 31st December, then if you keep going at exactly the same pace after these changes you'd make just over 900k VPP.

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I made an almost exact calculation, the overall reduction is ~9.4%(@NL100). But I think its easier to use 10%.

3/5handed rake increase has been sneaked back in the new formula again (2$ to 2.8). A quarter of my hands when playing 6max are 5handed fwiw.

Also I understood from the post, although they didnt make it completely clear, that the 4.5% is going to be true percentage instead of incremental which negates a lot of the effect from the decrease.

IMO it was pretty obv stars was gonna throw the players some bone after they called that player panel thing but it looks to me these changes are exactly what were planned on dec29 with a slightly lower rake cap and its a pretty big disappointment after klairic&co came back parading how happy they were with the negotiations.

Can someone put the rake changes in a postgresql script so that everyone can see the exact changes ?

good to see one of the good guys in poker being successful