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06-05-2012 , 09:24 AM
118k players on stars now, 38k on .es

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06-05-2012 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by YouFaiil
all this regulating to individual countries is ridiculous, i hope it goes no further.
I'm glad to see Spanish players gone since they were 99% shortstacking POS scumbags, but I'm hoping/praying that Germany doesn't do the same thing. Seems more than half the fish I see are from there.
06-05-2012 , 10:01 AM
the main reason its bad because other countries will see it and began the same thing, belgium, italy, spain france... with US players banned, how long till the whole of europe is regulated?

every country tht gets regulated is a step closer...
06-05-2012 , 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YouFaiil
the main reason its bad because other countries will see it and began the same thing, belgium, italy, spain france... with US players banned, how long till the whole of europe is regulated?

every country tht gets regulated is a step closer...
Regulated doesn't mean segregated. Ultimately, I think it's inevitable that all countries that are currently segregated will all become part of the main player pool again at some point.
06-05-2012 , 11:08 AM
oh, i think i may have misunderstood, are spanish/belgium/french etc segregated or jsut regulated?

i think stars announced that keeping players in 1 pool is their main goal?
06-05-2012 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mayox
thats gonna be one sick apartment/car/holiday for 1k
the less monitors/ipads/**** I don't really need or want for 1Ks, the bigger car/appt etc
06-05-2012 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
Regulated doesn't mean segregated. Ultimately, I think it's inevitable that all countries that are currently segregated will all become part of the main player pool again at some point.
You are right.

But when ???????????????????

Quote:
Originally Posted by YouFaiil
oh, i think i may have misunderstood, are spanish/belgium/french etc segregated or jsut regulated?
Belgium => access to .com
Italy => segregated
France => segregated
Spain => segregated
06-05-2012 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 13_Xerxes
You are right.

But when ???????????????????



Belgium => access to .com
Italy => segregated
France => segregated
Spain => segregated
I think tbh itll take the majority of europe being segregated/regulated before stars can propose reuniting under 1 player pool

if not, lets hope americans are back in business asap.
06-05-2012 , 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YouFaiil
I think tbh itll take the majority of europe being segregated/regulated before stars can propose reuniting under 1 player pool

if not, lets hope americans are back in business asap.
No, it won't. Much of Europe is anticipated to be regulated in the near future I believe, but it's up to the segregated countries themselves to decide whether they want to re-enter the main pool. They receive payment proportionate to the amount of volume/rake generated by their players, so it makes sense for their players to be part of the main pool (all else being equal) as it will generate far more income.
06-05-2012 , 12:42 PM
ohh ok, you obv have a much better grasp on this then i do lol but ty.

using my one time for UK to not regulate or charge taxes/segregate whatever
06-05-2012 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayox
thats gonna be one sick apartment/car/holiday for 1k
LOL. GET EM!
06-05-2012 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by YouFaiil
ohh ok, you obv have a much better grasp on this then i do lol but ty.

using my one time for UK to not regulate or charge taxes/segregate whatever
Stars anticipate UK to be regulated soon (next couple of years) but we won't be segregated (or taxed I wouldn't have thought.)
06-05-2012 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
Stars anticipate UK to be regulated soon (next couple of years) but we won't be segregated (or taxed I wouldn't have thought.)
wow thats good news that it wouldnt be segregated, major blow to the games anytime any country/state is segregated
06-05-2012 , 02:11 PM
Pretty sure they won't risk the backlash here in the UK by trying to re-tax gambling. It was taxed until about 10 years ago - I remember having to 'gamble' on your tax at the bookies. The tax was 5% but you could choose whether to pay it on your stake or on your winnings.

Does anybody know if the US pool will be segregated if/when they come back online?
06-05-2012 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
Stars anticipate UK to be regulated soon (next couple of years) but we won't be segregated (or taxed I wouldn't have thought.)
next couple of years sounds good to me, jst not anytime soon, then again im just against any type of government interference.

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Originally Posted by jrockhaf
wow thats good news that it wouldnt be segregated, major blow to the games anytime any country/state is segregated
especialy for the UK, man that would suck hard.

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Originally Posted by PokerRon247
Pretty sure they won't risk the backlash here in the UK by trying to re-tax gambling. It was taxed until about 10 years ago - I remember having to 'gamble' on your tax at the bookies. The tax was 5% but you could choose whether to pay it on your stake or on your winnings.

Does anybody know if the US pool will be segregated if/when they come back online?
I doubt anyone does? i think its possible tho, then again usa supposed to be land of the free...
06-05-2012 , 04:10 PM
Are there any Canadian pros who wouldn't mind chatting (via pm or aim or w/e) about taxes and things of that nature?
06-05-2012 , 04:23 PM
If anyone here knows LFC250 (UK) then tell him he's a f*cking ******. Thanks.

Last edited by MeleaB; 06-05-2012 at 04:23 PM. Reason: I miss PTR
06-05-2012 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerRon247
Pretty sure they won't risk the backlash here in the UK by trying to re-tax gambling. It was taxed until about 10 years ago - I remember having to 'gamble' on your tax at the bookies. The tax was 5% but you could choose whether to pay it on your stake or on your winnings.

Does anybody know if the US pool will be segregated if/when they come back online?
****ing Christ. Not being taxed on gambling winnings is amazing for a professional, but 5%? I would love taxes here to only be 5%. anyone who makes good money is paying 25-40%.
06-05-2012 , 07:20 PM
I think the ability to chat on stars over the last month has cost me like 100k, does anyone else just go on raging f tilt after they start chatting too?


Turned it off yesterday and crushing since because everytime I go to type some nonsense bull**** in the box it says I can't and then It doesn't lead me to tilt and stay playing well. I didn't have chat for like Feb/March but did for april, hmmmm gg chat ability until can control it
06-05-2012 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ashiXIII
****ing Christ. Not being taxed on gambling winnings is amazing for a professional, but 5%? I would love taxes here to only be 5%. anyone who makes good money is paying 25-40%.
The taxes were taken every time you bet, so it added up to much more than 25-40% of profits. It worked the same way rake works in poker, but it was also uncapped.
06-05-2012 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I think the ability to chat on stars over the last month has cost me like 100k, does anyone else just go on raging f tilt after they start chatting too?


Turned it off yesterday and crushing since because everytime I go to type some nonsense bull**** in the box it says I can't and then It doesn't lead me to tilt and stay playing well. I didn't have chat for like Feb/March but did for april, hmmmm gg chat ability until can control it
Same here, self-banned since then.
06-05-2012 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ashiXIII
****ing Christ. Not being taxed on gambling winnings is amazing for a professional, but 5%? I would love taxes here to only be 5%. anyone who makes good money is paying 25-40%.
It wasn't 5% as mentioned previously, it was 9% (and before that it was 10%) Each time you placed a bet you had the choice of paying the 9% on top of your stake or you could have it deducted from any winnings.

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I think the ability to chat on stars over the last month has cost me like 100k, does anyone else just go on raging f tilt after they start chatting too?
I have been self-banned on Stars for 4 years. Last month I asked for it to be put back on. I e-mailed them back the next day to ask to be self-banned again.
06-05-2012 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
I have been self-banned on Stars for 4 years. Last month I asked for it to be put back on. I e-mailed them back the next day to ask to be self-banned again.
Rom, I've come to expect certain standards of you, and to say this is disappointing is an understatement.

I actually thought a lot better of you before, you have a super human ability to put down other players/dick heads at the tables but you choose to hide from your super power rather than embrace it. "With great power comes great responsibility." This is your gift, your curse. Who are you? you're Spider-man Meleab. A man is just flesh and blood and can be ignored or destroyed. But as a symbol... as a symbol, you can be incorruptible, everlasting. Reclaim your power, Hunt them down. Do not stop until they are found. You do not know pain, you do not know fear. You will taste man-flesh the appreciation of others. Strike them down with all of your hatred and your journey towards nirvana will be complete! There are of course those who do not want you to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning. So put your woes behind you, step forth into the light of your calling and regain your powers of speech. If you're going to go out, then go out with a fight. And abuse the **** out of those dip****s as you go! My mother thanks you. My father thanks you. My sister thanks you. And I thank you. Here's looking at you, kid.

Ponty
06-06-2012 , 02:47 AM
lol
06-06-2012 , 05:12 AM
whats drugs is your gf feeding you these days kid

      
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