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01-19-2010 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by **********
yeah it's not so much fish tapping (altho once in a while i say some really stupid **** to fish when they take lines that are just so lol that my head asplodes), but its really mainly the talking **** to regs right after they call a 3bet oop with Q7 and flop a Q on a AQx board and c/c and turn a 7. obviously this line must be +ev right. when regs take just incredibly horribad lines against me it enrages me to no extent. also when regs cooler the **** out of me and then say something like "cashout on my titties" in the chat (cough cough walkingonwater5 ****** ass mother****er), it makes me go on monkey chat tilt. i have actually written stuff on ppl's ptr walls that i later emailed PTR and asked them to remove (which thankfully they will)
I actually do the same, I am a bad person because of it but hands like this there is nothing I can do but explode after a bad day of AA < KK, KK < AA.



Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: $209.75
MP2: $219.00
CO: $125.00
Hero (BTN): $200.00
SB: $208.70
BB: $70.60
UTG: $488.50
UTG+1: $160.75
UTG+2: $145.45

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with J J
UTG raises to $6, 5 folds, Hero calls $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4

Flop: ($24.00) 5 2 J (4 players)
SB bets $2, BB calls $2, UTG folds, Hero raises to $16, SB calls $14, BB folds

Turn: ($58.00) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $42, SB calls $42

River: ($142.00) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $136 all in, SB calls $136

Final Pot: $414.00
Hero shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
SB shows 7 4 (a straight, Eight high)
SB wins $411.00
(Rake: $3.00)
01-19-2010 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Newmanmi
I actually do the same, I am a bad person because of it but hands like this there is nothing I can do but explode after a bad day of AA < KK, KK < AA.



Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: $209.75
MP2: $219.00
CO: $125.00
Hero (BTN): $200.00
SB: $208.70
BB: $70.60
UTG: $488.50
UTG+1: $160.75
UTG+2: $145.45

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with J J
UTG raises to $6, 5 folds, Hero calls $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4

Flop: ($24.00) 5 2 J (4 players)
SB bets $2, BB calls $2, UTG folds, Hero raises to $16, SB calls $14, BB folds

Turn: ($58.00) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $42, SB calls $42

River: ($142.00) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $136 all in, SB calls $136

Final Pot: $414.00
Hero shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
SB shows 7 4 (a straight, Eight high)
SB wins $411.00
(Rake: $3.00)
that's ugly....he knew that his flop backdoor flush draw gave him added equity in the pot...
01-19-2010 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
I just got a popup saying FTP is shutting down for maintenance in two hours. So long, shortstacking scum!
when does FTPDoug usually update in 'internet poker'?
during the update itself or only after it's done? can't wait can't wait can't wait
01-19-2010 , 06:31 AM
Just got a popup from FT that it will go down for server maintenance soon..!

Here's hoping something decent happens.
01-19-2010 , 07:04 AM
This is one of the things they're gonna do:

Spoiler:
01-19-2010 , 07:04 AM
Shortstack says to his other shortstack buddy, "But I don't know how to play a turn!!!!" What am I going to do?????"

Quote:
Originally Posted by fieldyb
when does FTPDoug usually update in 'internet poker'?
during the update itself or only after it's done? can't wait can't wait can't wait
01-19-2010 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Respawn
This is one of the things they're gonna do:

Spoiler:
Unsure how I feel about this yet... Thoughts?
01-19-2010 , 07:24 AM
well i wanted to play but im glad we r getting an update, rush poker looks interesting but im not sure about it.
01-19-2010 , 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by skelm
Unsure how I feel about this yet... Thoughts?
Don't really know yet either. Didn't somebody say "maybe they're gonna come out with something crazy like Matrix cash games"? Not too far off, haha.

What seems bad right away is that you are given a random seat every time you get moved to a new table which means you can be in the blinds over and over again. I also have no idea how rake and FTPs will be calculated.
Also, what happens when you fold out of turn.. Will the other players see that you folded? Will another player instantly take your seat when you fold out of turn?

We'll see I guess. Maybe this won't be a revolution for the serious players. And if it's bad, hopefully it won't draw all the recreational players away from the normal tables.
01-19-2010 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Respawn
Don't really know yet either. Didn't somebody say "maybe they're gonna come out with something crazy like Matrix cash games"? Not too far off, haha.

What seems bad right away is that you are given a random seat every time you get moved to a new table which means you can be in the blinds over and over again. I also have no idea how rake and FTPs will be calculated.
Also, what happens when you fold out of turn.. Will the other players see that you folded? Will another player instantly take your seat when you fold out of turn?

We'll see I guess. Maybe this won't be a revolution for the serious players. And if it's bad, hopefully it won't draw all the recreational players away from the normal tables.
FTP is gearing towards the wrong demographic with this change imo. The lack of a HUD, blinds being randomly assigned along with other issues make this unappealing to the regular crowd (in my opinion).

Last edited by skelm; 01-19-2010 at 07:32 AM. Reason: The lack of accurate hud data rather
01-19-2010 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by skelm
FTP is gearing towards the wrong demographic with this change imo. The lack of a HUD, blinds being randomly assigned along with other issues make this unappealing to the regular crowd (in my opinion).
omg, i can see fish running to this game....
but i agree with you that this is not appealing at all to the regs...
01-19-2010 , 07:34 AM
yeah i def wont play my normal stakes, but i could see me playing a few levels lower with it to mess around. prob never going to use it
01-19-2010 , 07:38 AM
Another new feature.... Game theorists will have fun with this one:

Spoiler:
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/cashout-tournaments
01-19-2010 , 07:39 AM
I think rush poker is pretty disastrous for several reasons, and for me potentially undoes any excitement from Short stacker resolution.

Firstly, how long do people's HUDs take to get working - mine certainly will not work fast enough to get information on a new table

Secondly, table selection as a skill is invalidated. No point trying to find position on the table fish now.

Thirdly it destroys any dynamics in the game. Gone are situations where stacking any pair versus a good reg might be correct based on prior hands, because there will be no immediate prior hands.

Forthly how does it work with multitabling? It doesn't, as you cant sit against yourself.

I think it could be popular with some weaker players for all the reasons above, which I guess counts as a reason 5.
01-19-2010 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by skelm
Another new feature.... Game theorists will have fun with this one:

Spoiler:
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/cashout-tournaments
Old, actually.
01-19-2010 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RiverMustelid
I think rush poker is pretty disastrous for several reasons, and for me potentially undoes any excitement from Short stacker resolution.

Firstly, how long do people's HUDs take to get working - mine certainly will not work fast enough to get information on a new table

Secondly, table selection as a skill is invalidated. No point trying to find position on the table fish now.

Thirdly it destroys any dynamics in the game. Gone are situations where stacking any pair versus a good reg might be correct based on prior hands, because there will be no immediate prior hands.

Forthly how does it work with multitabling? It doesn't, as you cant sit against yourself.

I think it could be popular with some weaker players for all the reasons above, which I guess counts as a reason 5.
I agree on all points. Hopefully it doesn't impact on regular games.
01-19-2010 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Respawn
Old, actually.
Oh? Saw a link to it in the FTP Answers thread and assumed it was new. My bad.
01-19-2010 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by skelm
Oh? Saw a link to it in the FTP Answers thread and assumed it was new. My bad.
Yeah, I think it came shortly after the new client was released. It's probably a not such a great idea anyway.
01-19-2010 , 07:49 AM
is FT down?
01-19-2010 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by waffe23
is FT down?
Yes, update in progress. Should be up in less then 90 minutes.
01-19-2010 , 07:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RiverMustelid
I think rush poker is pretty disastrous for several reasons, and for me potentially undoes any excitement from Short stacker resolution.

Firstly, how long do people's HUDs take to get working - mine certainly will not work fast enough to get information on a new table

Secondly, table selection as a skill is invalidated. No point trying to find position on the table fish now.

Thirdly it destroys any dynamics in the game. Gone are situations where stacking any pair versus a good reg might be correct based on prior hands, because there will be no immediate prior hands.

Forthly how does it work with multitabling? It doesn't, as you cant sit against yourself.

I think it could be popular with some weaker players for all the reasons above, which I guess counts as a reason 5.
well said...

the '*Patent Pending' disclaimer at the bottom made me LOL...

worse idea in poker ever...live poker can only catch up and implement this in about a million years time.....
01-19-2010 , 08:01 AM
Servers back up - 35bb min
01-19-2010 , 08:16 AM
35 is so ghey but better than 20 i guess. still installing...does this apply to rush as well?
01-19-2010 , 08:21 AM
35bb is fine IMHO and should work out well for good regulars. First of all, much/all of a typical shortstacking strategy is nulified by having a 35bb stack. A typical raise pre-flop is 10% of your minimum stack meaning you still have to play post-flop poker if called. Furthermore, you can 3-bet a 35bb stack as a bluff without being basically commited with ATC. It changes the whole dynamic completely.

Also, because the minimum isn't the full 50bb it means that players (i.e. fish) that are scared or don't want to commit too much money can still sit down with a relatively small amount of cash. However, they don't get much of an inherent advantage by sitting with that amount. At NL$200 I forsee a lot of bad players with $70 stacks making some terrible mistakes (set mining for a start), getting AI too lightly, etc, etc.
01-19-2010 , 08:22 AM
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F. Bug fixes: A bunch of bug fixes, but of most interest here is that we believe we've fixed both the "invalid bet amount" popup on ante tables bug and the new table not appearing when you get moved tables in a tournament bug. Please let us know if you still experience either of these.
Finally..

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