I actually do the same, I am a bad person because of it but hands like this there is nothing I can do but explode after a bad day of AA < KK, KK < AA.



Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: $209.75
MP2: $219.00
CO: $125.00
Hero (BTN): $200.00
SB: $208.70
BB: $70.60
UTG: $488.50
UTG+1: $160.75
UTG+2: $145.45

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with J J
UTG raises to $6, 5 folds, Hero calls $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4

Flop: ($24.00) 5 2 J (4 players)
SB bets $2, BB calls $2, UTG folds, Hero raises to $16, SB calls $14, BB folds

Turn: ($58.00) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $42, SB calls $42

River: ($142.00) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $136 all in, SB calls $136

Final Pot: $414.00
Hero shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
SB shows 7 4 (a straight, Eight high)
SB wins $411.00
(Rake: $3.00)

that's ugly....he knew that his flop backdoor flush draw gave him added equity in the pot...

when does FTPDoug usually update in 'internet poker'?
during the update itself or only after it's done? can't wait can't wait can't wait

Just got a popup from FT that it will go down for server maintenance soon..!

Here's hoping something decent happens.

This is one of the things they're gonna do:

Shortstack says to his other shortstack buddy, "But I don't know how to play a turn!!!!" What am I going to do?????"

Unsure how I feel about this yet... Thoughts?

well i wanted to play but im glad we r getting an update, rush poker looks interesting but im not sure about it.

Don't really know yet either. Didn't somebody say "maybe they're gonna come out with something crazy like Matrix cash games"? Not too far off, haha.

What seems bad right away is that you are given a random seat every time you get moved to a new table which means you can be in the blinds over and over again. I also have no idea how rake and FTPs will be calculated.
Also, what happens when you fold out of turn.. Will the other players see that you folded? Will another player instantly take your seat when you fold out of turn?

We'll see I guess. Maybe this won't be a revolution for the serious players. And if it's bad, hopefully it won't draw all the recreational players away from the normal tables.

FTP is gearing towards the wrong demographic with this change imo. The lack of a HUD, blinds being randomly assigned along with other issues make this unappealing to the regular crowd (in my opinion).

omg, i can see fish running to this game....
but i agree with you that this is not appealing at all to the regs...

yeah i def wont play my normal stakes, but i could see me playing a few levels lower with it to mess around. prob never going to use it

Another new feature.... Game theorists will have fun with this one:

I think rush poker is pretty disastrous for several reasons, and for me potentially undoes any excitement from Short stacker resolution.

Firstly, how long do people's HUDs take to get working - mine certainly will not work fast enough to get information on a new table

Secondly, table selection as a skill is invalidated. No point trying to find position on the table fish now.

Thirdly it destroys any dynamics in the game. Gone are situations where stacking any pair versus a good reg might be correct based on prior hands, because there will be no immediate prior hands.

Forthly how does it work with multitabling? It doesn't, as you cant sit against yourself.

I think it could be popular with some weaker players for all the reasons above, which I guess counts as a reason 5.

Old, actually.

I agree on all points. Hopefully it doesn't impact on regular games.

Oh? Saw a link to it in the FTP Answers thread and assumed it was new. My bad.

Yeah, I think it came shortly after the new client was released. It's probably a not such a great idea anyway.

is FT down?

Yes, update in progress. Should be up in less then 90 minutes.

well said...

the '*Patent Pending' disclaimer at the bottom made me LOL...

worse idea in poker ever...live poker can only catch up and implement this in about a million years time.....

Servers back up - 35bb min

35 is so ghey but better than 20 i guess. still installing...does this apply to rush as well?

35bb is fine IMHO and should work out well for good regulars. First of all, much/all of a typical shortstacking strategy is nulified by having a 35bb stack. A typical raise pre-flop is 10% of your minimum stack meaning you still have to play post-flop poker if called. Furthermore, you can 3-bet a 35bb stack as a bluff without being basically commited with ATC. It changes the whole dynamic completely.

Also, because the minimum isn't the full 50bb it means that players (i.e. fish) that are scared or don't want to commit too much money can still sit down with a relatively small amount of cash. However, they don't get much of an inherent advantage by sitting with that amount. At NL$200 I forsee a lot of bad players with $70 stacks making some terrible mistakes (set mining for a start), getting AI too lightly, etc, etc.

Finally..

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