Villain is 12/3/inf after 100 hands. It's not a lot to go on but early suggestions are that if I 3b he folds everything I'd want him to call with and pushes everything I can't beat. Clearly, neither 3-betting nor flatting is -EV but with position I was happy to flat along on this occasion.

Flop call seems standard but wtf does hero do on the turn??

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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UTG: $111.80
UTG+1: $210.95
MP1: $210.50
MP2: $222.00
CO: $198.95
Hero (BTN): $205.00
SB: $203.00
BB: $201.65

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with K A
3 folds, MP2 calls $2, CO raises to $8, Hero calls $8, 3 folds

Flop: ($21.00) K 8 9 (2 players)
CO bets $14, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($49.00) K (2 players)
CO bets $68

3 bets PF. He is isolating a fish, so he can put you on a resteal and 4 bets light. And you can 5 bets shove and he will fold a lot. Free $$$.

Flop is good.

Turn, you can call again, because I think he got AcKx a lot, sometimes AcQc or a funky JcTc. Shove is atrocious. Fold is not so bad. Oop, it is a fold like always.

shove

kq in his range.. i know u think it isnt, but it is. hehe. even kj. i dont care what u say 12/3 is qq/ak..cos it isnt... i put him on kq and shove and buy in on nl400 table

dont shove if he is regular..but if he is irregular 12/3 then do.

Why? If the argument is that it gives him a last chance to bluff then I have to say I don't think it's overly likely. He's not bluffing or value-betting lesser hands on the river a similarly he'll probably not call a river bet with AA. He might however call a turn shove with AcAx or even QcQx. Similarly I don't see how hero can call the turn and then fold to a river shove when he'd be getting circa 25% equity on his call.

In my mind I think this is an argument of, "do we continue or not". If we do I see no reason why we don't just get it AI now.

He never overbet AA or QQ. He got a full (not likely), the flush (not likely) or TPTK (and sometimes he got the Ac).

Your equity is something between :

Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing Kc 9c 8c Kd
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac Qc 35 79.55 9 20.45 0 0.00 0.795
As Ks 9 20.45 35 79.55 0 0.00 0.205

Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing Kc 9c 8c Kd
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9d 9h 37 84.09 7 15.91 0 0.00 0.841
As Ks 7 15.91 37 84.09 0 0.00 0.159

Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing Kc 9c 8c Kd
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac Kh 9 20.45 0 0.00 35 79.55 0.602
As Ks 0 0.00 9 20.45 35 79.55 0.398

Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing Kc 9c 8c Kd
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ah Kh 0 0.00 0 0.00 44 100.00 0.500
As Ks 0 0.00 0 0.00 44 100.00 0.500

If he is bluffing with red jacks and shove a river club, nh. If he is semi bluffing with AcQx, you can see a river in position and snap a bluff and fold if a club come.

I'm torn between calling and shoving and can see merits to both, but one thing I'm never doing here vs an unknown is folding.

I agree with Xerxes, shove on turn is no good...can't explain it, perhaps it's just board texture and my natural talent of postflop play...

All in. No nit is overbet bluffing this turn. You probably have the same hand.

This is an irony... isn't it?

Board: Kd Kc 9c 8c

Hand 1: 47.538% { AsKs }
Hand 0: 52.462% { AA, 99-88, AKs, AcQc, AcJc, KQs, AKo, KQo }

This is the wider range I can imagine from such a nit. Anything narrower makes the equity go down. We are not ahead, so shoving is a bad idea, but we have enought pot odds to go ahead. Call turn and call again if a club doesn't hit.

@moke i think his turn overbet make his range look different

i'd call here with intentions of calling any non club river

and what changes on non club river ? except that ur giving him possible 11 outer ? fold or shove turn imo.

like?

AA, and Ac. Shove

villain has AcA/AK/KQc so push