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NL200 AA 3B pot vs reg NL200 AA 3B pot vs reg

06-23-2010 , 02:09 AM
22/17 over 130 hands, playing multiple tables

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($200)
SB ($151)
BB ($85.40)
UTG ($243.40)
UTG+1 ($241.60)
MP1 ($195.05)
Hero (MP2) ($200)
CO ($45.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A
2 folds, MP1 bets $7, Hero raises $22, 4 folds, MP1 calls $15

Flop: ($47) 4, J, 2 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $28, MP1 calls $28

Turn: ($103) 10 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $50, MP1 raises $145.05 (All-In)
06-23-2010 , 02:16 AM
Call, really standard hand.
06-23-2010 , 02:22 AM
Such a +EV call.
06-23-2010 , 02:27 AM
bigger on the turn, something starting with a 6.

I call too, not sure its as standard as atc thinks though. His line line looks more like jj or tt than kk,qq or a draw but i think you might have induced a raise whith the small turn size
06-23-2010 , 02:31 AM
c/c, c/r is a monster line

Hard to think we have less than 33% equity here though
06-23-2010 , 02:42 AM
C/c, c/r at this SPR just means he decided his hand was good and he didn't want to see any more cards. I'm sure he'll show up with TT-JJ fairly often, but he'll also have Kings with good frequency.
06-23-2010 , 03:30 AM
As a small but related hijack is this still a call with KK? Played this hand a moment ago and it immediately reminded of this thread....
Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $60.80
BB: $316.40
UTG: $479.50
UTG+1: $163.00
UTG+2: $92.95
MP1: $1061.90
MP2: $200.00
CO: $200.00
Hero (BTN): $239.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with K K
3 folds, MP1 raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero raises to $21, 2 folds, MP1 requests TIME, MP1 calls $14

Flop: ($45.00) Q 8 T (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $24, MP1 calls $24

Turn: ($93.00) 7 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $59, MP1 raises to $200, Hero...
06-23-2010 , 04:00 AM
It's a totally different example.

I realize that we're talking about the difference of like 2 combos between these hands but as a %, 2 combos is huge when villain has such a narrow range. In OP's, we beat KK,QQ, and the very occasional AJ. We lose to sets. But in yours, there is no gap between your overpair and the high card - so it's not like he's doing it with JJ too often and so we beat like the very occasional AQ. You still lose to sets, but you now also lose to AA.

I think someone could make a argument to fold your hand. No chance for OP's though. I even feel quite good about stacking his hand.
06-23-2010 , 04:22 AM
Fair enough. He did have AA fwiw.
06-23-2010 , 12:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OMGitsCheddar
It's a totally different example.

I realize that we're talking about the difference of like 2 combos between these hands but as a %, 2 combos is huge when villain has such a narrow range. In OP's, we beat KK,QQ, and the very occasional AJ. We lose to sets. But in yours, there is no gap between your overpair and the high card - so it's not like he's doing it with JJ too often and so we beat like the very occasional AQ. You still lose to sets, but you now also lose to AA.

I think someone could make a argument to fold your hand. No chance for OP's though. I even feel quite good about stacking his hand.
+1
06-23-2010 , 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
C/c, c/r at this SPR just means he decided his hand was good and he didn't want to see any more cards. I'm sure he'll show up with TT-JJ fairly often, but he'll also have Kings with good frequency.
wouldn't be suprised either to see KQhh, QJhh and stuff like that...
06-23-2010 , 01:38 PM
I'd call pretty quickly.
06-23-2010 , 01:47 PM
Easiest fold eva.

Do you want to see if he got J J , J J or J J ?
06-23-2010 , 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 13_Xerxes
Easiest fold eva.

Do you want to see if he got J J , J J or J J ?
wow, compelling argument
06-24-2010 , 03:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 13_Xerxes
Easiest fold eva.

Do you want to see if he got J J , J J or J J ?
authentic level
06-24-2010 , 07:49 AM
So you`re saying if we have KK is becomes much closer, and with QQ it`s more of a bet-fold than?
06-25-2010 , 05:30 PM
Not sure if mentioned before but your small turn bet induces shoves especially hands like flush draws that gain extra outs on the turn, like a gutterball or an oesd.
Even though sometimes he will show up with a set, he will also have a smaller overpair. (Not sure why he shoves with those on the turn, this depends on your stats and how he perceives you)
I will think that there is a decent chance he has a monster draw/ worse made hand than mine and call here, suck it up if I run into a monster.

You didn't mention your stats, he is a multitabler so his decisions are based on your stats.

      
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