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05-06-2011 , 03:33 AM

Ginger78

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CO is a reg nit 11/9/3.3

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

CO ($100)
Button ($43.50)
SB ($100.45)
BB ($144.50)
UTG ($133.90)
UTG+1 ($101.50)
Hero (MP1) ($130.65)
MP2 ($113.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3

, 3

UTG bets $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 1 fold, CO calls $3, 3 folds

Flop: ($10.50) 3

, 2

, 4

(3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $7.50, CO calls $7.50, UTG calls $7.50

Turn: ($33) 9

(3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $23, CO raises $89.50 (All-In)

05-06-2011 , 04:07 AM

robinfromthehood

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What's his raise flop % and the sample size?

05-06-2011 , 06:22 AM

alexx1

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Looks like 99^^.

05-06-2011 , 03:14 PM

funkyj

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alexx1

Looks like 99^^.

yeah, 99 most of the time. Is a nit with CO's stats ever slow playing the flop with A5?

05-06-2011 , 04:14 PM

Onyx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger78

CO is a reg nit 11/9/3.3

what is the hero?

and what does UTG do next??

usually takes a raid by Team 6 to make me fold a set here

Last edited by Onyx; 05-06-2011 at 04:17 PM. Reason: forgot about utg

05-06-2011 , 05:33 PM

Gary_Neville

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Call, he can't have 44/56/A5 in his range (at least a good proportion of the time) and a 11/9 is not to say that he can't be overplaying TT+ here. If he at least has TT-AA like 20% of the time he takes his line, you are more than priced in.

05-06-2011 , 10:10 PM

Mayox

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what 11/9 EVER has 1010+ here?

05-06-2011 , 11:34 PM

RKi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary_Neville

Doesnt have TT-AA EVER. Fold.

05-07-2011 , 12:48 AM

bleffo19

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i would be shocked if villain had any less than 99 here. that said if you think there's the slightest chance he can play the NFD+overs or TT-QQ this way then it could be a call. but i rly doubt this is the case - fold.

05-07-2011 , 01:45 AM

#10

downgoesdown

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i've seen some of these guys play KK+ like this

05-07-2011 , 03:06 AM

#11

Gary_Neville

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Wow nitrings gonna nitring. Since when does nit preflop stats translate to nit postflop tendencies, especially in this spot? and lol @ saying players can't EVER do something with a certain hand/range. Way to approach poker with a completely flawed mindset.

Notice in my analysis that I'm NOT suggesting that he is playing TT+ like this 100% of the time, we only need him to play TT+ like around 10% of the time to be even money (99 is 3 combos, TT-AA is 30 combos)

Last edited by Gary_Neville; 05-07-2011 at 03:12 AM.

05-07-2011 , 07:29 AM

#12

bleffo19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary_Neville

cool story bro

05-07-2011 , 04:49 PM

#13

Gary_Neville

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bleffo19

cool story bro

Yea it is most definitely the correct way about approaching this hand. So deal with it bro

05-08-2011 , 12:15 AM

#14

tzwien

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Why the **** would we fold here? We only know he's tight pf. Post could be any number of things. Overpairs, bare flush draws, A2cc/A9cc, other combo draws, etc. Could be any two cards if he knows you're thinking about folding sets here.

05-08-2011 , 12:55 AM

#15

AKnoGood

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I can't believe anybody would even consider folding a set here. Way too tight.

05-08-2011 , 04:21 AM

#16

SomeDonkey

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Don't you love it when the nit is playing his one hand range?

I still call tho

05-12-2011 , 02:23 PM

#17

Cybralisk

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not many nits are raising UTG with any pocket pairs lower then JJ, i would be calling all day here against this guy with a set

05-12-2011 , 04:41 PM

#18

robinfromthehood

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybralisk

not many nits are raising UTG with any pocket pairs lower then JJ, i would be calling all day here against this guy with a set

guy who shoved wasn't PFR...

05-14-2011 , 04:30 PM

#19

PokerPhotog

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If your even considering folding sets...you have a huge leak in your game....the ONLY goal when you have flopped a set is to get ALL the chips in the middle....will you loose sometime...sure...but tap the table ...say nice hand ...and reload when those RARE hands occur.

05-14-2011 , 07:36 PM

#20

robinfromthehood

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerPhotog

lol and who says poker is dying

05-15-2011 , 02:46 AM

#21

SimaoMacaco

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how many hands on villian?

05-15-2011 , 05:35 AM

#22

AbsoluteTilt

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22 is a for sure fold, 33 is probably a a sigh fold.

05-15-2011 , 04:07 PM

#23

Ginger78

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SimaoMacaco

how many hands on villian?

05-15-2011 , 04:08 PM

#24

Ginger78

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AbsoluteTilt

22 is a for sure fold, 33 is probably a a sigh fold.

why?

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