4 combos KQs
3 combos JJ

3 combos 99
1 combo 22 (downweighted for PF)
1 combo JTs (downweighted for PF)
2 combos AA (downweighted for river vbet)
1 combo AcQc (to account for the rare times that he is straight bluffing)


You lose to 7 combos, you beat 8 combos, and pot odds are on your side. And I think this is a very conservative range, so if you tell me it's tighter, you're wrong.

Bottom set sounded simple.

Here's some analysis he is a NIT, NIT's also don't like to fold overpairs and "big hands" cause they play so few and want to get max value. Hence they will often try to get 3 streets of value out of there TPTK or overpairs and slowdown if they get raised which sets usually do in that spot ie: raise fist pump get it in against a NIT who can't fold cause he has "AA" and if they have a set well just another cooler.

But I thought that was pretty intuitive and didn't need explaining.

Your right, its a fold.

SN?

SN New_Kid_on_the_Block

how about not playing 12/10? also, given he only has 440 hands on you its not entirely unlikely that he says you as decently laggier that he might value bet something worse. also, you have him at 14/8 so hes bad, so he also might do that

This thread is funny.

I'm glad I wandered into this thread. Had been thinking about adding some full ring to my game. Not anymore...

confirming this as 6max reg

its really not. reading cxf's posts just makes me want to jump out of my ****ing window. this thread if a joke how can you possibly think this is a fold against someone you have FOUR HUNDRED HANDS with

I think it is a fold and you should definitely FOLD.. nothing tilts me more when I run 3 barrel bluff with A high and nits check TANK CALL with a set... TANK FOLD.. never TANK CALL NITS!!!!!

See this is pretty much the type of response I was looking for. Fwiw, if you're downweighting JTs it would be more to like..0.5 or 0.25, because only one combo exists(triple ten blocked), and I would argue that if you include 22 you also have to include some KQo. So that would be something like

4 KQo
4 KQs
3 JJ

1 22
2 AA
3 99
1 Bluff
0.5 JTs/9Ts

Which would still be a call. I think the root of my problem was my preflop ranging. Giving him X KQ but no 22 is illogical. Also, my logic on the river seems pretty awful, as my reasoning for folding is "If hes good he should realize AA isn't getting value for anything" as well as "and he probably isn't good enough to realize this is a good spot to triple barrel bluff". First off, that doesn't make sense, as it is the exact same train of thought that makes you realize its a good bluffing spot that makes you realize you shouldn't be value betting AA here. So this would mean he is either going to be bluffing as well as value betting a narrow range, OR be bad and just doing random stuff. I also shouldn't be knocking any options completely out of his range when I don't have specific reads, but rather reducing the likelihood of them.

min raise

i'm not a big fan of the way you played any street tbh, and if you're looking for a fold on this river just cause he turned over KQ you're straight up dumb

lol

dude this isn't limit, we can change the size of our bets in this game depending on our hand and his hand

I don't think you understand how often you're folding this best hand against people who aren't bluffing.

This is interesting to me.

Villain bet 29 into 41.

What do you think he would have bet with 22/99?

What do you think he would have bet with QQ/KK/AA?

+1

Call. Your hand is soo underrepped here.

24-26ish. Keep in mind I said more likely, not anywhere near all the time.

This post is why I play less online poker and more live poker.

Unreal that OP may tankcall... Online poker is only getting nittier. How can someone find a fold?!!? ughhhhhh its depressing

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