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NL100 JJ 5 handed vs 18/12 reg...vs 4bet

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06-21-2010 , 06:06 AM

azan

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So this is a reg I've not played a ton with but I know he plays a lot. he's 18/12/2 over 7.6k hands with a 3bet %age of 4% and 4bet 11% range 1.3%. So normally I would 3bet the open and fold to a 4bet or flat pre as the BB is semi-loose.

Anyway. 5 handed, how much does his range change? Can we continue with JJ? Are we assuming he won't 4bet AQs?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $100.00
UTG: $117.85
CO: $119.30
Hero (BTN): $104.20
SB: $100.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with J

1 fold, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $8.80, 2 folds, CO raises to $22, Hero...?

06-21-2010 , 06:34 AM

Penguinz21

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If you don't plan on shoving this, I wouldn't 3bet it. But if you have a non- nitty image and have had some 3-bet battles, 3bet and shoving should be the right play.

06-21-2010 , 06:34 AM

Penguinz21

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ps you haven't played a ton with him but you have 7.6k hands on him?

06-21-2010 , 06:55 PM

CSheahan

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3b/fold line is really really bad unless he calls a ton of 3b OOP and never 4bet bluffs nor 4bets worse for value. As played, shove.

06-21-2010 , 07:26 PM

Zenzor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by azan

So this is a reg I've not played a ton with but I know he plays a lot. he's 18/12/2 over 7.6k hands with a 3bet %age of 4% and 4bet 11% range 1.3%

interesting

06-21-2010 , 07:45 PM

Abelian

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how many hands make up a ton?

06-22-2010 , 12:58 AM

OMGitsCheddar

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fold

06-22-2010 , 01:01 AM

AgressiveDog

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fold he is doing this with aces

06-22-2010 , 03:11 AM

azan

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We've played less than 50 pots together and I'm not the most observant when it comes to his play with others. But also I rarely remain at tables when they are 5handed so basically no history there.

He had KK, I shoved.

So do you guys that say fold flat the open?

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