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07-14-2008 , 02:44 PM
its a fold, you're behind most of the times and you won't see AQ enough times to justify calling 200 bucks (although its part of his range... its probably like 20% AK/AQ 80% 88-JJ)
07-14-2008 , 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by knn05
How much is the micro forum going to suffer with all the cool kids hanging out here?
There will be new regs in the micros to replace any regs that move on.

Circle of life.

When the forum originally split, most of the existing full ring regs went to the Small-High forum and a whole new set of Micro regs sprang up almost overnight.
07-14-2008 , 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by knn05
Seriously? Love your posts ranka, but why would you call in that HH with AKo for 100BB?
I think 99% of the time its some other crap than aces and kings. Probably pocket pair, broadways, AX and then we have odds to call.
07-14-2008 , 03:08 PM
Against an unknown I folds...if it's a maniac, I callz
07-14-2008 , 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Everypot
Ok guys I have been going to bed at 6-7am , and getting up at 3-4 pm. This **** has to stop and I wanna get on a normal schedule. I actually wanna start getting up at like 7 am EST and play the eurodonks from like 8-12 am (ive found the games very soft at these times). How best to flip flop my schedule almost completely within 48 hours?

I probably try and do this at least once a month. I get sick of getting up between 2-4pm and missing the whole day. Nothing really works well for me. I'm not really good at staying up. I usually end up giving up at like 11am to just go to sleep! If you can stay up that long then it may work for you but I always end up missing out on a couple days of work just trying to get a decent nights sleep afterwards.

I hate sleeping such a waste of time.
07-14-2008 , 03:18 PM
So does a guy who shoves 100bbs facing a 4x bb raise qualify as a maniac? I personally think so, so I called.
07-14-2008 , 03:22 PM
UTG raise, UTG+1 caller...then HJ shoves 100BB into two people who like their hands. Easy fold, imo.

If I -knew- villain were a maniac, he shoved AND no one else were in the hand, then I'd call.
07-14-2008 , 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by knn05
UTG raise, UTG+1 caller...then HJ shoves 100BB into two people who like their hands. Easy fold, imo.

If I -knew- villain were a maniac, he shoved AND no one else were in the hand, then I'd call.
UTG+1 caller is micula, guy is a total nit and his range there is 22-QQ, he will NEVER, EVER EVER call a shove and a call with 100% of his range so he's just dead money in that spot.
07-14-2008 , 03:24 PM
Ah. idk the Stars regs yet since I just moved. Fair enough. I still fold, though.
07-14-2008 , 03:34 PM
didnt you guys see though?? he has ACE KING
07-14-2008 , 03:43 PM
Maybe leak but it's standard call to me

Actually it was standard fold to me 3 weeks ago but after reading kelisitaans and bottomset's comments :" I never fold AK pf" or "AKs is teh nuts" I started 4bet and call more with AK.

I know that NL200 and lower limits are much more different than higher stakes because at NL200/lower there are more nits who never 3bet w/o aces or kings and you have to give up and fold your AK pf more often (also QQ) than higher limits.

But still there are profitable situations (and one is this), especially vs agressive thinking players who can play back or vs fishes (just leave nits alone and valuetown them with premiums).

Maybe I'm wrong because I am still testing and 3 weeks are so small time and played only 50k hands but looks like things working fine to me. And anyway if you want to move up to higher limits you have to play bottom premiums (as AK/QQ) much more agressively.
07-14-2008 , 03:50 PM
O rly?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $143.05
SB: $40.00
Hero (BB): $113.45
UTG: $32.10
UTG+1: $100.00
MP1: $63.55
MP2: $67.25
CO: $56.35

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 9 7
UTG raises to $2, 1 fold, MP1 calls $2, 3 folds, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($8.00) J 8 T (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets $1, SB calls $1, Hero raises to $9, UTG raises to $30.10 all in, MP1 calls $29.10, SB folds, Hero raises to $111.45 all in, MP1 calls $31.45 all in

Turn: ($162.20) A (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($162.20) 9 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $162.20
Hero shows 9h 7h (a straight, Seven to Jack)
UTG mucks Jh 8s
MP1 shows 3d Qh (a straight, Eight to Queen)
MP1 wins $62.90
MP1 wins $96.30
(Rake: $3.00)


What a month so far...
07-14-2008 , 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by five4suited
i'll be needing to trade ftp for stars shortly. just to clarify, if i've never played on stars i'm pretty much screwed, correct?
Check with Egg. He might be able to help you out.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mpethybridge
anybody esle think we should inaugurate the new forum with a well? say, from LC?
I respectfully decline for now. Will absolutely do one at some point but not ready yet.

Quote:
Originally Posted by knn05
Just curious here.....

How much is the micro forum going to suffer with all the cool kids hanging out here? I mean, the micro chat thread isn't even in the top ten threads on pg. 1.

I'll be hanging out with all you cool kids/orphans/caged animals beginning Aug. 1 or so, but I'm still gonna jump between 50NL and 100NL ::sighs:: so I'll still prob. hang in the micros.
I am a creature of habit, which explains why I continue to post where I am even though it makes little sense. I posted exclusively in FR for the few months I played 6-max, I initially straddled forums at the last split even though I was playing 25NL at the time, and I mostly stayed in the micro forum even though it's been a few months since I moved to 100NL. I will continue to pop back and forth at least between the chat threads for the foreseeable future.

CMAR is right though. After the last split a whole bunch of new posters came out of the woodwork. Imagine it will be similar this time.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ranka
Maybe leak but it's standard call to me

Actually it was standard fold to me 3 weeks ago but after reading kelisitaans and bottomset's comments :" I never fold AK pf" or "AKs is teh nuts" I started 4bet and call more with AK.

I know that NL200 and lower limits are much more different than higher stakes because at NL200/lower there are more nits who never 3bet w/o aces or kings and you have to give up and fold your AK pf more often (also QQ) than higher limits.

But still there are profitable situations (and one is this), especially vs agressive thinking players who can play back or vs fishes (just leave nits alone and valuetown them with premiums).

Maybe I'm wrong because I am still testing and 3 weeks are so small time and played only 50k hands but looks like things working fine to me. And anyway if you want to move up to higher limits you have to play bottom premiums (as AK/QQ) much more agressively.
Hmmm...I seem to remember shoving with AKs against you just a couple of days ago. I lost. No wonder you like it.


Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexB182
O rly?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $143.05
SB: $40.00
Hero (BB): $113.45
UTG: $32.10
UTG+1: $100.00
MP1: $63.55
MP2: $67.25
CO: $56.35

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 9 7
UTG raises to $2, 1 fold, MP1 calls $2, 3 folds, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($8.00) J 8 T (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets $1, SB calls $1, Hero raises to $9, UTG raises to $30.10 all in, MP1 calls $29.10, SB folds, Hero raises to $111.45 all in, MP1 calls $31.45 all in

Turn: ($162.20) A (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($162.20) 9 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $162.20
Hero shows 9h 7h (a straight, Seven to Jack)
UTG mucks Jh 8s
MP1 shows 3d Qh (a straight, Eight to Queen)
MP1 wins $62.90
MP1 wins $96.30
(Rake: $3.00)


What a month so far...
That's pretty icky, Alex. Sorry!
07-14-2008 , 04:17 PM
I has a gutshot
07-14-2008 , 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thanksb
I has a gutshot
gutshot = not a good draw

But I has a gutshot with ONE OVERCARD -> Thats a super good draw!
07-14-2008 , 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ranka
I think 99% of the time its some other crap than aces and kings. Probably pocket pair, broadways, AX and then we have odds to call.

False. JJ is the bottom of his range.
07-14-2008 , 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieJ
I probably try and do this at least once a month. I get sick of getting up between 2-4pm and missing the whole day. Nothing really works well for me. I'm not really good at staying up. I usually end up giving up at like 11am to just go to sleep! If you can stay up that long then it may work for you but I always end up missing out on a couple days of work just trying to get a decent nights sleep afterwards.

I hate sleeping such a waste of time.
I didn't make it Stayed awake til 9:30 am then I was watching a video in bed and was like welllll I'll just sleep for 4 hours then go to bed at a reasonable time tonight. Ended up sleeping 7 hours after I shut off my alarm
07-14-2008 , 04:35 PM
re fixing sleep schedule.

I used to have this problem all the time, and I'd try and fix it by staying up the entire 30 hours or so until a normal bedtime comes around and I could crash. After 20 hours or so its amazing how trivial having a standard schedule seems, and I usually went to sleep. Its totally doable though. Nowadays I generally just wake up w/o enough sleep and get through the day with caffeine etc until night comes around; unfortunately I still can't always fall asleep.

I think both methods are fine but I would like to say that, at least for me, being tired is one of the worst forms of tilt out there.

edit: LOL your post wasn't there when I started. yeah, its funny how your priorities change, the effects of sleep deprivation are often extremely similar to drugs. I often get paranoid when I try to pull those all-nighters
07-14-2008 , 04:47 PM
LC, imagine how many posts u would have if u didnt reply to 5 different things at once!
07-14-2008 , 05:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Kelley
False. JJ is the bottom of his range.
Why he cant have lower than JJ?
07-14-2008 , 06:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by keepitreal
LC, imagine how many posts u would have if u didnt reply to 5 different things at once!
LOL, I know but this is much nicer for those posters who have me on ignore.

In other news my rotten (although much beloved) greyhound just scarfed down over 1/2 of my dinner. The plate was in the middle of the counter and I was taking care of some business over the phone, wandering as I talked. When I wound up pacing back into the kitchen he was standing with his front paws on the counter and his face in my plate.

Moral of the story: Get a smaller dog, LDO!
07-14-2008 , 07:37 PM
Quote:
The plate was in the middle of the counter and I was taking care of some business over the phone, wandering as I talked.
Moral of the story: No phone calls at dinner, LDO!
07-14-2008 , 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Everypot
I didn't make it Stayed awake til 9:30 am then I was watching a video in bed and was like welllll I'll just sleep for 4 hours then go to bed at a reasonable time tonight. Ended up sleeping 7 hours after I shut off my alarm

Assuming you play for a living keeping a decent schedule is very hard. Your body gets used to the late nighters. It also gets used to going to sleep when your exhausted instead of at a certain time. I can never just go to sleep. I have to be on the brink of passing out or have some help from over the counter sleeping pills. I use SleepMD right now and it helps me to fall asleep quickly *within 5 mins* and stay asleep through the night.

I give up on keeping a normal life as far as sleep goes. I wake up when I wake up and hopefully it's when the games are good
07-14-2008 , 08:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieJ
Assuming you play for a living keeping a decent schedule is very hard. Your body gets used to the late nighters. It also gets used to going to sleep when your exhausted instead of at a certain time. I can never just go to sleep. I have to be on the brink of passing out or have some help from over the counter sleeping pills. I use SleepMD right now and it helps me to fall asleep quickly *within 5 mins* and stay asleep through the night.

I give up on keeping a normal life as far as sleep goes. I wake up when I wake up and hopefully it's when the games are good
You are lucky b/c you and chargers both can have weird schedules. I have to attempt to maintain a somewhat normal schedule otherwise my girlfriend and I would never see each other. This is actually not as big a deal with regards to sleep as it is with playing at night and on the weekends. We both make sacrifices and I put hands in on weekends and whatnot but sometimes I feel like I must be a goddamn ****** trying to work as a poker player 12-6 M-F
07-14-2008 , 09:06 PM
Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $68.25
Hero (BTN/SB): $188.25

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN/SB with Q K
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $7, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($14.00) Q J A (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($30.00) J (2 players)
BB bets $21, Hero calls $21

River: ($72.00) T (2 players)
BB bets $32.25 all in, Hero calls $32.25

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $136.50
BB shows As 9s (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Hero shows Qc Kc (a Royal Flush)
Hero wins $136.00
(Rake: $0.50)


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