villain is 40/6. These spots always end up making me feel like either a nit or a callstation/spewtard. What to do?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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CO: $50.20
BTN: $61.20
SB: $53.15
BB: $46.35
UTG: $130.45
UTG+1: $68.15
UTG+2: $50.00
Hero (MP1): $57.75
MP2: $47.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP1 with 5 4
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 5 folds, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($5.75) A T 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4, UTG calls $4

Turn: ($13.75) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $10, UTG raises to $20, Hero ?

Unless he had a high FTCB, I would fold pre. Turn, **** it, just go with the hand and hope he has KQ.

im not at all a fan of isolating pre here. postflop like ATC said, just go with it and hope to cooler him in some weird way cuz im not folding flushes to 40/6s like ever (probably not a big leak)

with the right people in MP2-BTN, do you think that we can turn a profit overlimping? what do you do with small pairs here?

the turn is a ship, the Js is not a horrible card. it completes broadway and completes a lot of 2pairs, so it's just about the best you can get c/minraised on

I think even with passives to act behind, overlimping this hand is bad, because it's like, what are we hoping to flop? When we hit spades, we always have the worst flush and in a limped pot, even fish aren't pushing it on three-spade boards without a flush.

Small PPs though, I'm more likely to overlimp, but it depends on who acts behind.

god you make me even hate life when i see this hand.

i think i would muck it. there are just more combinations of higher flushes in his range, than str8ts/2pairs.

yeah, i am a nit!

We're getting odds against a range that never contains a hand worse than a straight.

Board: As Js Ts 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.989% 34.99% 00.00% 662 0.00 { 5s4s }
Hand 1: 65.011% 65.01% 00.00% 1230 0.00 { AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, KQs, KsJs, KsTs, Ks9s, Ks8s, Ks7s, Ks6s, Ks5s, Ks4s, Ks3s, Ks2s, QsJs, QsTs, Qs9s, Qs8s, Qs7s, Qs6s, Qs5s, Qs4s, Qs3s, Qs2s, JsTs, Js9s, Js8s, Js7s, Js6s, Js5s, Js4s, Js3s, Js2s, Ts9s, Ts8s, Ts7s, Ts6s, Ts5s, Ts4s, Ts3s, Ts2s, 9s8s, 9s7s, 9s6s, 9s5s, 9s4s, 9s3s, 9s2s, 8s7s, 8s6s, 8s5s, 8s4s, 8s3s, 8s2s, 7s6s, 7s5s, 7s4s, 7s3s, 7s2s, 6s5s, 6s4s, 6s3s, 6s2s, 5s4s, 5s3s, 5s2s, 4s3s, 4s2s, 3s2s, KQo }

trueeeee, +1

i dont really care about the 10usd. i dont like the 90 which are still behind. so calling the 10usd i might even do, but river?

when a fish minraises me, he just screams "i want to play for stacks", so i just expect a big bet on river. and i think combinationwise we are behind.

100bbs deep, i'm not going to fold this against villain.

I'm saying we're getting odds to call a shove on the turn (which subsequently means that shoving ourselves is +EV, and hence better than folding).

With the other +1, your WR just jumped a ptBB.

WAT?

we have like 35% equity and you want to shove 90? now i know i am a nit, because i prefer shoving with 50%+ when i know i dont have any FE. and getting cheap to showdown when i think i have less than 50%.

i agree folding would be bad, but shoving is even worse.


to all of you, who are saying "i am not folding this", care to elaborate any explanation? there are 3 hands (TJ AJ KQ) which we beat, and like XX hands we are behind.

we have a flush against a player who may think he has the nuts but these players are likely to overplay weaker hands that they consider to be the nuts. sometimes that results in us overplaying our hand here but we cant always have the absolute nuts. maybe theres some merit to just b/c turn and then call all non spade rivers but id rather just get it in here when the fish is clearly not going anywhere

read stack sizes again.

rofl thats true i missed that as well. nope i can no longer see merit to just flatting turn lol

You said we had odds to call a shove on the turn, i made some calculation and i think it's close.

If fish shoved, it would be 41.25 for us to call with the pot being 74.25 so it gives us 41.25/(74.25+41.25) = 0.357.

So vs your exact range, it's slightly ev- to call a shove. Add some AJ or random bluff and i am ok with it being ev+.

That being said, versus a vilain described as loose/passive, i am expecting to be check minraised on the turn with the high portion of his flush range more often than with his worst flush so i don't totally agree with your range containing every possible flush.

i ment bb, so its 80bb behind after our bet

yeah, but its also nl50 and we are nearly 120bb deep

for 60bb effective stack i wouldnt even think about this hand

Too loose to open, too nitty to consider folding when you're this deep.
You should probably reconsider your MP isolating range and your over-limping range, as hurt indicated. This is a good spot to over-limp small pairs, but also good to over-limp middle SC's (not 45s, though, maybe 78s+, depending on the remaining players) and some occasional like ATo hands.