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09-02-2009 , 01:50 PM
My image is TAGish though recently I've been double/triple-barreling and taking down pots without showdown, especially one against villains in this hand just a few hands before.

Villain 1 is loose, semi-aggressive with the large stack of about 700. Decent and fairly crafty.

Villain 2 is a loose fish who has started to go on tilt. Usually short stacked and has about 200 now.

I have about 600.

Villain 1 raises to 15 in MP
I look down at 99 and I minraise to 30 in hijack
Villain 2 calls 30 on button, folded back to Villain 1 who calls.

Flop - Q87

Villain 1 checks, I bet 50, Villain 2 thinks for a bit and call, Villain 1 does the same.

Turn - A

Villain 1 checks, I ??
09-02-2009 , 03:21 PM
I think you gotta slow down here. Between the two of them, there's bound to be an Ace, and Villian 1 could even be slowplaying A8, A7. I give up most of the time here as both villians are probaly not giving you enough credit, so it would be a great place to actually have flopped a set (u need to work on that).

Depending on your reads and if you think you will actually get some credit, you could take one more shot and put Villain 2 all in for $150, but I think he's probably the most likely one to have the Ace and will probably call. If he doesn't have the Ace, he'll probably fold a lower pair or a draw, and you'll get Villian 1 to fold his draw. But I still think it's too likely you'll get called or even raised to make this play worthwhile.
09-02-2009 , 03:30 PM
Why are you minraising preflop?
09-02-2009 , 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damntra
Why are you minraising preflop?
Table was playing really tight and i thought that would basically make it heads up. I was looking for a call as i knew my 9s were much better than what Villian 1 held.
09-02-2009 , 04:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahead up
Table was playing really tight and i thought that would basically make it heads up. I was looking for a call as i knew my 9s were much better than what Villian 1 held.
You can still make a standard 3bet to 45...

Also, give up on turn.
09-02-2009 , 06:37 PM
There is no conceivable reason to three-bet minraise 99 here. you accomplish nothing other than investing 15xBB preflop, which will be followed by one of these two things:
- You get called, and 7 of 8 times, the flop is bad for you, and you're in a spot like this
- A real hand blows you off yours by 4-betting

As played, wave the white flag on the turn, you have no fold equity and never have the best hand.
09-03-2009 , 11:12 AM
I ended up waving the white flag instead of double barreling and Villain 2 checked behind as well.

River was a red A

Villain 1 bet 100, I tanked for a bit and folded, and Villain 2 called. They both chopped it with J8o and T8o.
09-03-2009 , 11:35 AM
I like the min. raise pre-flop you take control of the betting lead. The flop is great for our hand because it is so well disguised thats the thing about have a pair pre-flop we always have a pair on the flop, we make a good c-bet on the flop and hope for a call.

The Ace changes nothing and in fact it improves our hand this is level 5 thinking, we know that both villains know that we know we can have AQ here. I think I can bet $35 for value and shove most rivers.
09-03-2009 , 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
There is no conceivable reason to three-bet minraise 99 here. you accomplish nothing other than investing 15xBB preflop, which will be followed by one of these two things:
- You get called, and 7 of 8 times, the flop is bad for you, and you're in a spot like this
- A real hand blows you off yours by 4-betting

As played, wave the white flag on the turn, you have no fold equity and never have the best hand.
+1
09-03-2009 , 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Anomaly
I like the min. raise pre-flop you take control of the betting lead. The flop is great for our hand because it is so well disguised thats the thing about have a pair pre-flop we always have a pair on the flop, we make a good c-bet on the flop and hope for a call.

The Ace changes nothing and in fact it improves our hand this is level 5 thinking, we know that both villains know that we know we can have AQ here. I think I can bet $35 for value and shove most rivers.
This has to be a level, because otherwise, Jesus ****ing Christ this is awful. As a matter of fact I just realized it has to be one because of the overly idiotic tone.

      
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