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live 1/2NL  AJo  Call or Fold? live 1/2NL  AJo  Call or Fold?

02-20-2009 , 02:06 PM
Live 1/2NL $60 max buy-in,

I just sat down, 1st hand. I've seen this guy(sb) here before, but never played with him.

mp1 limps, sb calls, I check in the bb w/ AJo, (we all have about $60)

flop A73

sb bets $6, I call, mp1 folds

turn 9

sb bets $8, I tanked for about 30 sec. and asked him " did u really get that lucky on me?"

I then min raised $8 more

He instantly shoves for $45
Hero?

I figured that I was way ahead of his range up until this point. I made my little hollywood speech in hopes to get a few more chips out of him. didn't think he'd ship it in.
02-20-2009 , 02:29 PM
I hate the fact that you declined your option with AJ. Raise that up man to $12 to avoid getting beat by 97o.

Oh yeah, and fold to the shove.
02-20-2009 , 04:45 PM
Fold to the shove.

Don't minraise the turn.

Don't ask a question about someone sucking out in this fashion.

Don't play 1/2 NL $60 max buy in.

Raise preflop when multiple people limp to you in this structure.

Other than that, everything is fine.
02-20-2009 , 05:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemzKing
I hate the fact that you declined your option with AJ. Raise that up man to $12 to avoid getting beat by 97o.

Oh yeah, and fold to the shove.

$12? Why so much? I'm only going to get called by something better. Now if someone calls and I miss what do I do? C-bet $15 to $20?

now i'm in for half my stack when I didn't have to be. First hand at the table. I think that is just a horrible play.
02-20-2009 , 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Fold to the shove.

Don't minraise the turn.

Don't ask a question about someone sucking out in this fashion.

Don't play 1/2 NL $60 max buy in.

Raise preflop when multiple people limp to you in this structure.

Other than that, everything is fine.

1. How much should I have re-raised on turn?

2. Whats wrong with asking someone a Ques.?

3. $60nl was the only game going.

4. There were only 2 other players involved.

Other than that, are you folding this turn?
02-20-2009 , 06:41 PM
The pot is $18 on the turn and he puts in $8 more. So the pot is now $26. If you raise only $8 you give him odds of 3-1 so he now has to call with any flush draw (based on the implied odds) or maybe he will put you on the flush draw and come over the top with a weaker ace to push you out.

I don't think you played it terribly. I probably check preflop, reraise on the flop $8 more (to get a weaker ace to call) and then lead out for 2/3 the pot if checked to on the turn. If he calls the turn, I aim to check down the river depending on my read.

Even flat calling on the river with a view to reevaluating on the river is not bad.

As played fold. Also... your speech projected weakness in my opinion.
02-20-2009 , 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Fold to the shove.

Don't minraise the turn.

Don't ask a question about someone sucking out in this fashion.

Don't play 1/2 NL $60 max buy in.

Raise preflop when multiple people limp to you in this structure.

Other than that, everything is fine.
This.

and for ib3tucas questions after this...

1. dont raise the turn, call, then re-evaluate the river

2. talking like that is unbecoming

3. go play craps

4. definitely raise it up preflop, especially when only 2 people limped
02-21-2009 , 12:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nogyong
The pot is $18 on the turn and he puts in $8 more. So the pot is now $26. If you raise only $8 you give him odds of 3-1 so he now has to call with any flush draw (based on the implied odds) or maybe he will put you on the flush draw and come over the top with a weaker ace to push you out.

I don't think you played it terribly. I probably check preflop, reraise on the flop $8 more (to get a weaker ace to call) and then lead out for 2/3 the pot if checked to on the turn. If he calls the turn, I aim to check down the river depending on my read.

Even flat calling on the river with a view to reevaluating on the river is not bad.

As played fold. Also... your speech projected weakness in my opinion.
Very good point about the odds I was offering him to call w/ the min raise. Problem was I didnt want him to fold. I figured he would call with a wider range if my bet was small. Then I could re evaluate on the river.

As far as my speech went, I was trying to make him think I weaker than I really was. Although now that I think about it......I could've looked so weak that he may have just shoved with air to get me off the hand.

      
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